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shaktiman
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
 Posted - 24 Mar 2003 : 08:56:55
I want to browse a cd &/or other drive, I open the drive up( from the finder in os 8.1) & I am confronted with large folder icons in an awkward shaped window, with my hard drive I have "view as list" set, but cd roms dont seem to be remembered, can we make them be remembered?I want to avoid spring loaded folders, and to double click a folder & have that folder open in the same window. can this be done. in "view options" what do the terms "use relative date" & "calculate folder sizes" mean? I use "view options" to stop having to see the "date modified", then we have options for "size" & "kind", is there a way to have shown in the window "kind" & then "size" instead of the other way round? When I use the finder(not the "desktop"finder, but the thing that finds things), can I browse a folder on a drive instead of the whole drive? shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1
, 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive
Performa400(asleepintheattick) Edited by - shaktiman on 24 Mar 2003 09:10:16 |
danamania
Official 68k Muse
Australia
1193 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2003 : 09:12:55
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I want to browse a cd &/or other drive, I open the drive up( from the finder in os 8.1) & I am confronted with large folder icons in an awkward shaped window, with my hard drive I have "view as list" set, but cd roms dont seem to be remembered, can we make them be remembered?I want to avoid spring loaded folders, and to double click a folder & have that folder open in the same window. can this be done.
You can hold option down while doubleclicking, and it'll open the new window, and close the old. quite often on CDs the position of windows haven't been set to anything odd, so the windows may open up in the same position To go back then, you can hold down command and click on the window title. If you combine the two and hold down command-and-option at the same time as you browse through folders and click on the menu bar title to go back 'up', then you only end up with one window open at a time. That might help some quote:
in "view options" what do the terms "use relative date" & "calculate folder sizes" mean?
use relative date means the dates near todays date are shown as "today" "yesterday" "tomorrow" "Today" etc, instead of just pure dates only. Calculate folder sizes will give a folder a 'size' of all the contents it (and its subfolders) adds to. Normally it's just shown with a size of "-". It can do a lot of HD thrashing on some systems, especially if it's on a CDROM. quote:
I use "view options" to stop having to see the "date modified", then we have options for "size" & "kind", is there a way to have shown in the window "kind" & then "size" instead of the other way round?
You can drag the columns about. Look at the top of each column, there's "Size" and "Kind" etc - those aren't just titles, they're also buttons - click and drag side to side and the column moves. If you just click only, the list is sorted by that column. On the far right of the bar containing column names is a little triangle made of lines. If you click that, it'll reverse the order of sorting - so you could have Z on top and A on the bottom, for example dana 
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shaktiman
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2003 : 12:32:59
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I want to browse a cd &/or other drive, I open the drive up( from the finder in os 8.1) & I am confronted with large folder icons in an awkward
shaped window, with my hard drive I have "view as list" set, but cd roms dont seem to be remembered, can we make them be remembered?
I want to avoid spring loaded folders, and to double click a folder & have that folder open in the same window. can this be done.
You can hold option down while doubleclicking, and it'll open the new window, and close the old. quite often on CDs the position of
windows haven't been set to anything odd, so the windows may open up in the same position
To go back then, you can hold down command and click on the window title. If you combine the two and hold down
command-and-option at the same time as you browse through folders and click on the menu bar title to go back 'up', then you only
end up with one window open at a time. That might help some
I admire you dana, it's not really what I wanted but it's a good atempt. quote:
use relative date means the dates near todays date are shown as "today" "yesterday" "tomorrow" "Today" etc, instead of just pure dates
only. Calculate folder sizes will give a folder a 'size' of all the contents it (and its subfolders) adds to. Normally it's just shown with a size of
"-". It can do a lot of HD thrashing on some systems, especially if it's on a CDROM.
ok, do any of these options make the computer slower? quote:
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I use "view options" to stop having to see the "date modified", then we have options for "size" & "kind", is there a way to have shown in the
window "kind" & then "size" instead of the other way round?
You can drag the columns about. Look at the top of each column, there's "Size" and "Kind" etc - those aren't just titles, they're also
buttons - click and drag side to side and the column moves. If you just click only, the list is sorted by that column. On the far right of
the bar containing column names is a little triangle made of lines. If you click that, it'll reverse the order of sorting - so you could have
Z on top and A on the bottom, for example
I cant dana , I expected to be able to, I tried it loads of times, the colums just remain static. Cheers for the reply dana, I learnt a couple of tricks I didn't know about, I may be reaching for the "command"(I think it's the ctrl on mine) button more often. No on second thoughts I am sure the command button is ~ alt . shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1
, 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive
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G4from128k
Full Member
USA
873 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2003 : 14:52:13
The problem that you face with CD-ROMs is that the window sizes, locations, icon positions, veiwing preference, etc. are all stored on the CD-ROM. So whoever the idiot who that created the CD was responsible for that default layout. Sadly, because the information is saved on the disk that the windows belong to, and because CDs are read-only, there is no way to save any of the changes you make to the layouts of windows and icon positions of CD-ROMs. The "use relative date" won't slow down your computer at all. The "calculate folder sizes" does impact performance a little bit because the computer crunches away looking at all the sizes of the items inside the folder that it is totalling up the size of. I also have had a few crashes associated with leaving the "calculate folder sizes" option running (I think it can lead to a thread collision in the Finder when you muck around with the files in a folder at the same time that the Finder is trying to total up the size of that folder). IMO, "calculate folder sizes" is best left OFF. TTFN, G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist
by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way
Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
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danamania
Official 68k Muse
Australia
1193 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2003 : 18:18:02
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I want to browse a cd &/or other drive, I open the drive up( from the finder in os 8.1) & I am confronted with large folder icons in an awkward shaped window,
There's another option too - it's a "click and a half". That might sound a little confusing to start with, but it's a useful way to browse down into folders. It works by doing almost a normal double click on say, the main HD icon. Click, let go, click-and-hold. Don't let go on the 2nd click, that is. That'll turn the mousepointer into a magnifying glass, and from then on whilever you hold the mousebutton down, you'll go into the object it's held over - ie the HD icon will open, then you could go to the System Folder (with the mouse button still held down) and it'll highlight then open. roll over say, the Preferences icon and prefs will open. Now if you let go, -only the preferences window will stay open-. The previous windows you went through will all close. I can't remember which OS release this debuted in, but it's a neat one to know all the same. dana
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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit
Australia
2822 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2003 : 01:55:36
IIRC, the was some obscure hack to copy the desktop file from a CD and have it read from the copy on the HDD, but I can't remember what it involved.~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
Mayor of NuBus City v3.0
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G4from128k
Full Member
USA
873 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2003 : 06:11:32
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IIRC, the was some obscure hack to copy the desktop file from a CD and have it read from the copy on the HDD, but I can't remember what it involved.
I wonder if VirtualDisk can do this? VirtualDisk was a system 7 control panel that cataloged disks (floppies, CDs, zip drives, etc.) when they were ejected and maintained a set of aliases to all of the contents. IIRC, you could organize the aliases any way you wanted and when you tried to actually open or use the virtual file, it would automatically ask for the CD, removable, or floppy that the file was actually stored on. It's not what shaktiman asked for, but maybe it could help.Edit: I was looking around for disk cataloging software and found a wide variety of similar apps such as: CDFinder, Disk Recall, DiskWizard, FindIt, Disk Tracker 1.x and CatFinder. G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist
by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way
Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
Edited by - g4from128k on 25 Mar 2003 06:43:04
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