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Woz on apple hardware quality

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llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 12:37:18 I emailed Steve Wozniak yesterday and one of the things i asked him was what his thoughts were on the quality of current Apple hardware... heres his response: quote: For the last 10 years, reliability of Apple hardware has been atrocious. When I was young, just about anything you could buy had a long life expectancy, like 20+ years if you wanted to keep it that long. We heard of 'planned obsolescence with cars, but with computers it's more like 'forced obsolescence'. Many times I had 100% failures within a year for the computers I used in my classes, meaning that for 30 computers, I'd have 20 repair returns within a year. when Woz disses Apple hardware, you know its bad... ------------- Grand Leader, Apple /// Revolutionary Council Apple ///'s Liberated: 29477 Visit http://www.kevcave.tk (my Forum) ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Edited by - llamaboy487 on 23 Mar 2003 12:58:17
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 13:34:08 quote: I emailed Steve Wozniak yesterday and one of the things i asked him was what his thoughts were on the quality of current Apple hardware... heres his response: quote: For the last 10 years, reliability of Apple hardware has been atrocious. When I was young, just about anything you could buy had a long life expectancy, like 20+ years if you wanted to keep it that long. We heard of 'planned obsolescence with cars, but with computers it's more like 'forced obsolescence'. Many times I had 100% failures within a year for the computers I used in my classes, meaning that for 30 computers, I'd have 20 repair returns within a year. when Woz disses Apple hardware, you know its bad... ------------- Grand Leader, Apple /// Revolutionary Council Apple ///'s Liberated: 29477 Visit http://www.kevcave.tk (my Forum) ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Edited by - llamaboy487 on 23 Mar 2003 12:58:17 OUCH -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 13:44:37 hehehe i also gave Woz a link to the forums didnt steve jobs post here once, back in the day? ------------- Grand Leader, Apple /// Revolutionary Council Apple ///'s Liberated: 29477 Visit http://www.kevcave.tk (my Forum) ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 13:53:26 quote: didnt steve jobs post here once, back in the day? LOL i don't know about that but i'd be ok. quote: hehehe i also gave Woz a link to the forums Let's hope he posts -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 15:38:31 quote: LOL i don't know about that but i'd be ok. quote: hehehe i also gave Woz a link to the forums Let's hope he posts Now THAT would be COOL!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 17:41:33 that would be pretty cool... It would also be REALLY cool if steve&steve posted here... yeah I think that some of apple's hardware is nice... people mistreat it... and yeah things are built way cheap now.. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 18:34:31 quote: that would be pretty cool... It would also be REALLY cool if steve&steve posted here... yeah I think that some of apple's hardware is nice... people mistreat it... and yeah things are built way cheap now.. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide I don't think jobs will post here, hes to caught up in NeXT v2. -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 18:48:45 quote: I don't think jobs will post here, hes to caught up in NeXT v2. He's not really much of a techie, this place ain't his style. :rolleyes: The woz is a different story though! Maybe Paul Allen would be fun to have around here too, those two guys are the real success stories from back in the day. The face time dweebs from both outfits are basically working for S.W. and P.A. while they're doing what they WANT to! In my book, you can't beat that with a stick! jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 19:58:51 Keeping NeXT V2 safe from Al Gore I would say Who knows... maybe Woz is a lurker... or.. :gasp: ONE OF US! (.ME hides in his WozCloset) Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 20:14:25 quote: Keeping NeXT V2 safe from Al Gore I would say Who knows... maybe Woz is a lurker... or.. :gasp: ONE OF US! (.ME hides in his WozCloset) Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide That would be strange! -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 20:18:25 I am Woz. Really. Trust me. I run woz.org and helped Jobs start Apple on April 1st 1976. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 20:29:16 quote: I am Woz. Really. Trust me. I run woz.org and helped Jobs start Apple on April 1st 1976. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.? - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Indeed. -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
oldmacman Full Member USA 713 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 20:30:11 Too bad Apple hardware isn't as good as the stuff from NeXT, though. Aside from the cheap-@ss power supplies that some of the slabs used, or dead batteries, I've never heard of anything in a NeXT dying. Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700 (2), LC 575, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180 PCs liberated from Windoze: 3
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 23 Mar 2003 : 22:02:00 I am Steve Jobs... I did most of the business parts of starting Apple with Woz on, before and after the date that he said. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
boredomconquersall Full Member Canada 613 Posts	Posted - 24 Mar 2003 : 09:30:14 yes, and I'm going fishing with scooby doo! hoy toi toi toi toi toi toi toi! ThNXn "to renderr... one frame?" 10000Th poster and 1000Th topic creator in lounge. and remember, if you try and install mac OS 10.2 on an early G3, you will go insane, and aquire a thirst for blood!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 25 Mar 2003 : 20:30:10 Say hi to Velma and Freddie for me! Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide

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