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llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 22:23:37 I think we should make a move to open the PPC section of the forums. The only way i think we should do this would be to limit it to Pre-G3 PowerMac's... I know this is the 68k Mac Liberation Army, but IMHO the PPC section would make a good place to post; the Lounge fills up rather quickly... just my $0.02 Master of The Grand Unified Theory of 68k-based Matrix Reality. Visit the Kevcave. ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 22:27:00 There is pluses and minuses to that alot of the posts in the lounge are ppc based... -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 22:29:19 but it would clear out the Lounge for use for posts about Wee Sing Silly Songs! (see the "my first CD" thread) Master of The Grand Unified Theory of 68k-based Matrix Reality. Visit the Kevcave. ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 22:31:35 If you will recall, you tried to make this happen earlier, I opened up the NuBus PPC MLA on my own forum and noone ever came.... then I had to move and the IW got caught in the crossfire (it came with us to AZ) Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 22:34:56 i just think its time to push for that again, b/c i really think it'd make life @ the MLA more interesting... actually i think we should restructure the model-based forums to b fore general-topic oriented... i just dont like the way all that's set up. but i guess its not my call i love being admin in my own forum, where i get to call all the shots ------------- Master of The Grand Unified Theory of 68k-based Matrix Reality Visit http://www.kevcave.tk (my Forum) ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Edited by - llamaboy487 on 08 Mar 2003 22:37:44
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 22:37:42 how about not saying ppc but "old world rom" macs. -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
Captain Z Mobile Ops Commander USA 637 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 22:49:42 Maybe a "Forum Suggestions" area, placed at the bottom of the forums, would be nice. It could be a place of suggesting improvements to the MLA Forums, so that the mods could discuss the pros and cons and come to a resolution, along with more public input. ------------------ Captain Z - Mobile Operations Commander 68K Macintosh Liberation Army 23 68K Macs Liberated Visit Captain Z's Starbase of EV Stuff
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 23:33:01 I second that motion it's just like the war room, but with the war room, nothing EVER happens (or seems to anyway) and it's public, which makes the MLA a little less of the totalitarianism that it (is becoming more like the fritter sometimes) (hopefully will never be) Government, for the people, by the people, of the people Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 23:33:20 Good call, cap'n. ------------- Master of The Grand Unified Theory of 68k-based Matrix Reality Visit http://www.kevcave.tk (my Forum) ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 23:39:48 quote: Maybe a "Forum Suggestions" area, placed at the bottom of the forums, would be nice. It could be a place of suggesting improvements to the MLA Forums, so that the mods could discuss the pros and cons and come to a resolution, along with more public input. We've had discussions like this in the "Website Forum" . . . another place where nothing ever seems to happen! I kinda like it when the lounge is a hopping place, it's been DEAD around here lately . . . fritter pulled back ahead on total posts. jt �. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 08 Mar 2003 : 23:56:01 I can buy that I think... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 09 Mar 2003 : 21:52:05 I think it would be a good idea if we limited it to the NuBus PowerMacs and the Performa 52xx/53xx/62xx/63xx (excluding the 6360) series machines. 6400s and 6500s are still quite useful, as are PCI PowerMacs. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.� - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
Gothikon Full Member Australia 537 Posts	Posted - 09 Mar 2003 : 23:11:27 quote: I think it would be a good idea if we limited it to the NuBus PowerMacs and the Performa 52xx/53xx/62xx/63xx (excluding the 6360) series machines. 6400s and 6500s are still quite useful, as are PCI PowerMacs. Are you implying 68k Macs aren't useful? Infidel! -------- LC 2, LC 3, Q605, Perf 638, Colour Classic (160 603e) 6100, 7200, PTP 225 (Quad 604), PM 9600, G4 Cube
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 09 Mar 2003 : 23:52:24 quote: Are you implying 68k Macs aren't useful? Infidel! Umm, oops. What I meant by that post is that there aren't as many 6500s and 7300s turning up in dumpsters and on curbs yet as there are Quadra 700s and LCIIs. Ya get my drift? -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.� - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
shaktiman Senior Member United Kingdom 1226 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 03:08:10 There is a need for a foru to discuss the powermacs, esp the lower end powermacs. It does I feel need to be centered on Nubus powermacs. That said we are 68kMLA, & we dont need to encourage Power macs, so the new forum would perhaps be discussing how to make Nubus powermacs interact with 68k's. It is a kind of a network & or what use can 68k's get out of powermacs. Can 68k's borrow a bit of the powermacs power, ie:- cpu, memory etc. I plan to aquire a powermac 8100/110 & this will sit aside my 840av, networked together I will get the compatibility of running a powermac, with the added video capture of my Quadra 840av. I can't see the powermac making my 840av redundant, but having my 840av networked with a powermac would be usefull. shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1 , 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive Performa400(asleepintheattick)
Alien Junior Member Netherlands 269 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 03:16:48 Isn't "Legacy PPC" the official term? Of course, the models can be divvied up between NuBus and PCI machines... ,xtG .tsooJ -- RTFM
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 05:04:47 Typically, for all my powermac-ish questions, I just head to the fritter. IMO, the MLA and the AF compliment each other, and I enjoy both worlds. a PPC section would be nice, but why bother adding just one more PPC forum to the world? I like the specific aim of this place, and people post more, answer quicker,a nd generally know each other better ona forum of this size. I don't know, I'm just saying check out other places, specially the fritter, before hand. Perhaps we could each have links on our own sides between the two? I do like the suggestion forum Idea, but I also think General 68k MLA news and Stuff covers that subject pretty well too. There may have to be some readjusting off things if we add a new forum of such, but the idea does intrigue me. ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 06:33:57 llama's idea where we were making more generic forum sections is great, I even have some ideas for things like this.... "Multimedia" - discuss multimedia things that your macs can do "Education" - got any ways that you use macs to educate? tell us here... "Networking and Communication" - Get those macs talking, got a networking idea? question? it probably goes in here..... things like that;..... (anyone got any others?) Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
shaktiman Senior Member United Kingdom 1226 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 13:09:51 It has been discussed before & is being discussed agian & will probably be discussed in the future, but at the end of the day this is 68kMLA, if you put a 68k into a powermac then thats fine, but if anyone wants ppc specifically then another site it is. Perhaps in the same vein as 68kMLA someone wants to start a LEMLA? If it aint broke then why fix it & this must now have been the longest that I have stayed around in any online forum type place.(a year last January/February) shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1 , 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive Performa400(asleepintheattick)
scchicago Full Member USA 936 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 16:53:29 sure, lets open a pre G3 PPC section. as we are moving to OSX our older NuBus powermacs especially will be left in the dust. I'm not saying that our 68ks are useless however... Quite the contrary. however i do feel that the PPC section which is here ANYWAY might i add! should be unlocked for all of us to share experiences and enjoy. _________________ Leutennant SCCHICAGO HotLine:scchicago.homeip.net Website:http://scchicago.homeip.net Forum: http://scchicago.homeip.net/forum
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 17:05:53 quote: . . . i do feel that the PPC section which is here ANYWAY might i add! should be unlocked for all of us to share experiences and enjoy. Actually, discussions like this must make up at least 5% of the dialog in the forums, we can't really afford to give up one of the lounge's hottest Perpetual Topics! jt �. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
boredomconquersall Full Member Canada 613 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 17:23:56 good luck adding or taking away any forums here. coxy may be a fearless leader, but he's pritty facist when it comes to suggestions, like I tried to get an "other 68k devices" section, and he has deleted every post suggesting it... watch! he'll delete this post too!! ThNxnx "if you can see this, your looking too closely!" 10000Th poster and 1000Th topic creator in lounge. and remember, if you try and install mac OS 10.2 on an early G3, you will go insane, and aquire a thirst for blood!
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 17:24:06 My 020 on this is that we probably don't want to encourage that much PPC activity here. Although I do most of my work on PPC machines, I like that my 68ks have a place that they can call home. I would fear that an influx of PPC-only members would lead to inappropriate PPC postings in the many 68k-only subtopic forums. I don't feel that 68k machines are getting left behind -- they still do everything they could do when the left the factory. Actually, they can do a very much more in the hands of the adventurous members of the 68kMLA. So, I am not sure that this community really needs to change with the times. On the otherhand, I am just an old stick in the mud who has never used OS X. G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 17:41:27 hehehe... I think that an other 68k devices section would be a good idea.... expecially since it's the 68k forum.... which is why I'm not too filled with wonderment about the idea of opening the PowerPC section... In fact, the only thing that I see the current little... "thing" is good for is for only knowing when the MLA was created... and that should be documented somewhere in an "about the MLA" thing if it's not already there.... PowerPC people can go to the 'fritter or the MacAddict forums (post from school) Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 17:47:40 quote: . . . I tried to get an "other 68k devices" section, and he has deleted every post suggesting it... watch! he'll delete this post too!! Are you sure they were deleted? That doesn't sound right, but if you don't clean up your act or at least use humor when you're complaining, I'd delete your posts if I could too. Kidding around is fine, but nastiness isn't even close, bca! jt �. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 18:54:00 quote: I would fear that an influx of PPC-only members would lead to inappropriate PPC postings in the many 68k-only subtopic forums. But isn't that what us mods are for, trying to stop that? -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.� - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
~Coxy Leader, Tactical Ops Unit Australia 2822 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 19:12:37 quote: good luck adding or taking away any forums here. coxy may be a fearless leader, but he's pritty facist when it comes to suggestions, like I tried to get an "other 68k devices" section, and he has deleted every post suggesting it... watch! he'll delete this post too!! Quoted for posterity. Anyway, I did lock that thread about the Atari/Amiga section, mainly because it was in the lounge, and I don't like Atari/Amigas. I don't believe in deleting posts, and I can't remember ever havng done so. ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit Mayor of NuBus City v3.0
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 20:30:32 heh i knew that post would set off a huge discussion... i think that in the coming years it will be every bit as important to preserve the pre-G3, "low end" PowerMacs... theyre pretty much obsolete now and i dont think itll be long before they start getting trashed in droves like 68k's... I'm not suggesting we start a Legacy PPC Macintosh Liberation Army or anything (although, if anybody wants to, ive got a forum we can use ) but i do think that they are going to start becoming rarer as the next couple of years pass... ------------- Master of The Grand Unified Theory of 68k-based Matrix Reality Visit http://www.kevcave.tk (my Forum) ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 21:03:58 you'll note, llamaboy that I HAVE a forum where the legacy PPC mac MLA is set up, and this will likely be inservice soon.... I'm not sure though seeing as how... well yeah Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
foetoid Full Member USA 554 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 21:53:16 here's what i think... i think the lounge has worked just fine for posting about PPC stuff. It doesn't really matter, because we know what's up, and technically we are the 68kmla, so having a forum dedicated PPC sorta seems out of place... so I say leave it as it is, and have fun, I think that's more important than debating over whether or not we need to unlock the PPC forum. EDIT: somewhere in here ML5 said somethin about excluding 6360s... why? they're the same thing as 6400s (which you endorsed) in DT form with 1 pci slot... didn't quite understand that one. ________________ foetoid, that's (fee-toy-duh) http://www.foetoid.doesntexist.com Edited by - foetoid on 10 Mar 2003 22:01:53
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 22:15:03 quote: EDIT: somewhere in here ML5 said somethin about excluding 6360s... why? they're the same thing as 6400s (which you endorsed) in DT form with 1 pci slot... didn't quite understand that one. I have one of those Quadra 630's with that PCI upgrade, they're righteous 68k's! jt �. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 22:35:43 quote: I have one of those Quadra 630's with that PCI upgrade, they're righteous 68k's! Whatever. Whats in a name, anyway? -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.� - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 10 Mar 2003 : 22:41:58 quote: quote: I have one of those Quadra 630's with that PCI upgrade, they're righteous 68k's! Whatever. Whats in a name, anyway? Well . . semi-righteous, it IS a freakin' PERFORMA after all . . . :rolleyes: . . . if ever there was an Apple codename for "Road Apple" it was "Performa" . . . what a MISNOMER! jt �. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
shaktiman Senior Member United Kingdom 1226 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 03:08:20 quote: Well . . semi-righteous, it IS a freakin' PERFORMA after all . . . :rolleyes: . . . if ever there was an Apple codename for "Road Apple" it was "Performa" . . . what a MISNOMER! Yes quote: quote: good luck adding or taking away any forums here. coxy may be a fearless leader, but he's pritty facist when it comes to suggestions, like I tried to get an "other 68k devices" section, and he has deleted every post suggesting it... watch! he'll delete this post too!! Quoted for posterity. Anyway, I did lock that thread about the Atari/Amiga section, mainly because it was in the lounge, and I don't like Atari/Amigas. I don't believe in deleting posts, and I can't remember ever havng done so. ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit Mayor of NuBus City v3.0 Coxy is the leader, When you go to work do you insult & argue with your boss? well a good Atari(68030+) would be just as good as the Quadra's. You go for it Coxy. If anyone wants to start thier own site they are free to do so & if it is more popular than here then Coxy would just have to accept it, but this place is popular under Coxy's leadership so let him be. shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1 , 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive Performa400(asleepintheattick)
Jobf Junior Member United Kingdom 162 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 03:38:18 quote: Well . . semi-righteous, it IS a freakin' PERFORMA after all . . . :rolleyes: . . . if ever there was an Apple codename for "Road Apple" it was "Performa" . . . what a MISNOMER! Mmm nearly true, but nuthin wrong with the Performa 475! === Jobf http://jobf.kicks-ass.org
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 08:08:18 quote: quote: Well . . semi-righteous, it IS a freakin' PERFORMA after all . . . :rolleyes: . . . if ever there was an Apple codename for "Road Apple" it was "Performa" . . . what a MISNOMER! Mmm nearly true, but nuthin wrong with the Performa 475! Clubfeeted, appearance challenged Quadra 605 with 68LC040 = NearRoad Apple jt �. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
Clinton Full Member USA 700 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 12:17:28 AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FINALLY, JT SUCCUMBED TO THE NOOB DOUBLE POSTING SYNDROME� hehehehehe anyway, I think that the 475 is kinda cool looking. better than the LC/II/III machines. leave the poor SemiFeetsMac� alone CCC Lieutennant Commander (Pronounced Leftennant) 68k Macs Rescued: 2 Pluses, a 512KE, a Classic II, a Q650, a Q660AV, and a MacII Contraband rescued: Power Computing PowerBase 200, a PM 8600/300, and a PM8500/180 Apple //s rescued: Apple //e
shaktiman Senior Member United Kingdom 1226 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 12:52:35 quote: quote: Well . . semi-righteous, it IS a freakin' PERFORMA after all . . . :rolleyes: . . . if ever there was an Apple codename for "Road Apple" it was "Performa" . . . what a MISNOMER! Mmm nearly true, but nuthin wrong with the Performa 475! Clubfeeted, appearance challenged Quadra 605 with 68LC040 = NearRoad Apple Well now we have to think shall we have a road apple forum, incorporating performa's. haha Congrats trash on the double post ;-) shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1 , 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive Performa400(asleepintheattick)
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 14:09:11 quote: AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FINALLY, JT SUCCUMBED TO THE NOOB DOUBLE POSTING SYNDROME� I did my bit in troubleshooting the back-key-bug back in the day, but these are new forum software related glitches cropping up lately. jt: NOOB-NO-MORE! jt �. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 18:31:52 we could wait until my forum is back open (which is approximately how long this discussion might last) and put PPC stuff there if we really need another place to put PPC stuff Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 20:28:08 well... see now i think Road Apples would be an excellent forum idea, all the Macs that aren't quite "up to snuff" with the rest of the 68kii (plural of 68k, for the uninformed ) But apart from the "to PPC or not to PPC" question, i DO think that it would be better if we restructured the forums without the model-based forums and more general categories, with "Road Apples" being the exception... But for instance the section between the main forums (Lounge, Website, etc.) and the models, the one that has "UNIX on 68k" "68k Hacks" and the like, i think that is more of what things should be like rather than the models... but that IS just the opinion of one relatively-old-guy. (in terms of length of membership in the mla, not age ) ------------- Master of The Grand Unified Theory of 68k-based Matrix Reality Visit http://www.kevcave.tk (my Forum) ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Edited by - llamaboy487 on 11 Mar 2003 20:30:12

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