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Clinton
Full Member
USA
700 Posts |
 Posted - 03 Mar 2003 : 17:41:46
OK, here is where I stand. I have tried netscape that comes with OS8 (version three I believe), I havew tried iCab, I have tried Mosaic 3.0.0B4, and all of them crash/freeze/fould up the entire system!!! Is there any 68k mac web browser that will not borkulate my system, and will actually browse places??the only one that I can really use is Mosaic version 2, and it is too old to display anything properly. TIA CCC Lieutennant Commander (Pronounced Leftennant)
68k Macs Rescued: 2 Pluses, a 512KE, a Classic II, a Q650, a Q660AV, and a MacII
Contraband rescued: Power Computing PowerBase 200, a PM 8600/300, and a PM8500/180
Apple //s rescued: Apple //e |
markymark
Junior Member
223 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 04:09:12
I've tried just about every browser on 68k's and I found the best ones to be IE 3.0 and maybe CyberDog. All the others are too slow, too old or crash on my 68k system.
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shaktiman
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 05:33:59
I use Netscape 4.0.8I have tried IE 5(I think it was 5) but I found that it did that odd pc thing of re-writing my preferences. It is a little bit more compatible with "the web" than Netscape 4.0.8 Netscape 4.0.8 has been very stable for me, make sure you give it a good amount of memory, mine has either 60 or 80 MB. I also use a ramdisk as my cache to help speed things up. Maczilla is a must(plug in for audio & video)
Netscape utilises Eudora (email) which is a very competent program. Lastly Opera seems keen to move onto 68k macs & so lets all email Opera & get them to make a 68k mac version? shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1
, 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive
Performa400(asleepintheattick) |
foetoid
Full Member
USA
554 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 05:40:47
IE 4.0.8, I believe, works rather nicely. It's on one of the Hotline servers out there, just go grab it and try it out!________________
foetoid, that's (fee-toy-duh)
http://www.foetoid.doesntexist.com |
G4from128k
Full Member
USA
873 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 08:58:00
Since every browser you try seems to crash badly, perhaps its not the browser that is at fault. Could your System, Networking, or Open Transport software buggy or borked? Various versions of MacTCP, various flavors of PPP, and earlier versions of Open Transport had well known stability problems. Also, a clean install of the OS might cure the stability problems. Of course, I know how frustrating it can be to try to cobble together a stable assemblage of old 68k software.Good Luck, G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist
by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way
Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
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Clinton
Full Member
USA
700 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 13:42:02
this is on a PB 540c and I have run internet through TCP/IP on ethernet only. How the hell do you use CyberDog, it seems that it is only good for browsing bizarre apple archives!!!I'll try IE, I dont like iCab that much, it is bizarre. anyway, thanks CCC Lieutennant Commander (Pronounced Leftennant)
68k Macs Rescued: 2 Pluses, a 512KE, a Classic II, a Q650, a Q660AV, and a MacII
Contraband rescued: Power Computing PowerBase 200, a PM 8600/300, and a PM8500/180
Apple //s rescued: Apple //e |
Clinton
Full Member
USA
700 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 13:43:04
forgot to mention, fresh install of OS8.sorry 'bout the doublepost, but this machine does not like cookies. thanks
CCC Lieutennant Commander (Pronounced Leftennant)
68k Macs Rescued: 2 Pluses, a 512KE, a Classic II, a Q650, a Q660AV, and a MacII
Contraband rescued: Power Computing PowerBase 200, a PM 8600/300, and a PM8500/180
Apple //s rescued: Apple //e |
maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 16:11:21
Another addition to Dana and JT's rule of Computing.....ALL BROWSERS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But i'd say your best bet would be either iCab or Netscape 4.08. They're a bit funny though, and they don't like some systems. Netscape works like a dream on my LC630, but is crash city on my LC475. iCab works well on my LC475, but won't browse anywhere except my ISP's homepage on the LC630. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5
68k Macintosh Liberation Army
Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
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markymark
Junior Member
223 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 20:38:42
IE 4.01 and 4.5 are really slow on my 601 PPC. I don't know how you can get them running at a reasonable speed on a 68k mac. I don't really like IE 3 it's just faster then IE 4.x but IE 4.x can handle more web pages. And 68k Java is a whole topic itself. http://www.cyberdog.org/faq/web-ftp/index.html
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Bugsi
Starting Member
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 15:54:21
I've had the best success with iCab, make sure you have the latest version (2.9.1), trash your iCab Prefs if need be, give it as much RAM as you can, and definitely a Clean install of OS 8.1 if you can.iCab PPC would crash my Beige G3 (OS 9.2.2) on quit until I trashed prefs and gave it lots of memory. Finally, if you can afford to browse IMAGE-FREE, then go over to macorchard.com and download "WannaBe." Hands down the best text-only browser available. Get the various scripts to do web searches too.
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Doomed
Starting Member
Canada
26 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2003 : 12:24:33
I've been putzing around with browsers inside Basilisk in anticipation of getting my LC475 (thankyou Scott Monk! =D); Netscape 4.08 crashed a lot, but I assumed it was because it was in an emu -- crashed under fresh installs of 7.5.3 and 8.0. Maybe I'll have better luck with the real thing. Cyerdog's not terribly hideous, and I'm liking Netshark but I'm going to have to play with it more on the real machine. For some reason I get stupidly slow Ethernet speeds under Bas; I'm expecting the True Hardware to perform slightly better than 1-2k/sec. =P I don't have patience to browse at those speeds right now.What's the ugliest part of your body? |
Gothikon
Full Member
Australia
537 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2003 : 17:16:52
A big problem with iCab is it looks like crap. You can however downnloa new toolbar icons. i can't beleive he is still using the same ones that look like they were drawn when he was 4. IIRC it has still has no support for CSS which is why so many sites look crap.--------
LC 2, LC 3, Q605, Perf 638, Colour Classic (160 603e) 6100, 7200, PTP 225 (Quad 604), PM 9600, G4 Cube |
Citon X600
Junior Member
Canada
206 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2003 : 23:38:02
The best browser by far for speed/features is Netscape Gold 3. I've used it and it's rocket fast. Sure not all pages render right but, it still does these forums and many phpBB forums ok.Some browsers will crash if the system has not been updated. For example, I was constantly crashing Netscape 4 untill I decided to do the update to 7.6.1 and then it stopped crashing, so sometimes it could be a known issue that has fixes. However do take caution as these browsers will often crash on newer pages that use new technology and markup. (Especially the older 3.xx series) Many long winded pages (like apple's old software download list in Ie 4.01) literally make you feel like you are in a time void. It just takes forever. If you are going to use Internet Explorer 4.01, be sure to give it a good hunk of ram, the more windows open, the more ram it chews. Plus, if you switch from window to window, it forces a redraw and rendering of the page, taking more of your precious time. (Switching to 256 sometimes helps for graphics intensive pages.) Dave Great minds...Great minds...Think Different. |
maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2003 : 03:50:09
For the record, Netscape 3 crashed on my PB165c (RIP...... ) every time i visited these forums."**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
Warrior maclover5
68kMLA
Official 68kMLA Detective 
Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1 |
tomlee59
Starting Member
USA
46 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2003 : 15:54:50
If you have ram to spare, you can *greatly* speed up browser action if you put the app in a ram disk. Netscape 2.02 positively flies with a ram disk on my old PB540c. And for text-only browsing, I'm a big fan of wannabe. It will work on any mac with color quickdraw in rom (which means no Plus, no SE, no Classic, but SE/30 is ok).Also, if the app is fat, use stripfat or some other utility to get rid of the ppc code. Finally, disable virtual memory if you are using it. Going out to disk is sloooooooooow.
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tachyon
Starting Member
Australia
29 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2003 : 20:48:13
WoW! Someone else has heard of Netshark! What about the older brother TCP/Connect II? Doomed, I am amazed.
tomlee59, which RAM disk software do you use to auto-load the browser, something like ramBunctious?
Does anyone out there remember WebSurfer? It was around the Netscape 2.x era. I think I still have a copy somewhere, should try it out.~~
Master 68k liberator. Too many to list. Personal collection includes SE, Classic, Classic II, IIsi (w/NetBSD) IIvx, LC, LCIII, 2x LC475, Quadra950 (with PPC card) Centris 610, PB145,PB520,PB190 In progress: Performa580 (& some PowerMacs) |
maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2003 : 20:59:19
Nope. Never heard of WebSurfer. Was it any good? Personally i like MacWeb for compact Macs. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
Warrior maclover5
68kMLA
Official 68kMLA Detective
Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1 |
porkface
Starting Member
4 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2003 : 05:29:32
I use IE 2.1 on my IIci and it works quite well. It's not very multi-threaded, so it sort of downloads one or two images at a time, and it doesn't display everything properly, but I can get what I want, and most of the sites I visit work fine on it.
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JAaron77
Starting Member
USA
14 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2003 : 17:12:02
I've had quite a bit of trouble with browsers on my IIcx, mainly because the CFM 68k (or whatever it is) extension that CyberDog and IE require crashes my system. after installing IE, I had to completely reinstall the system, Netscape, freePPP, AIM, and several other things... I haven't tried iCab yet, and don't know if I will, since I have Netscape working (although it crashes with certain page errors...) and after all, I only have a 14.4 modem on my mac right now..............now if only I could get any system version working on my Classic again...
[edit]....another thing I hate is I can't get Netscape to load the DCEmu Forum, its phpBB and while netscape will load the main page, it crashes loading any threads, but thats better than what IE did, IE loaded the first page then crashed...guess it didn't know what to do with it after it was loaded....
Edited by - JAaron77 on 25 Jun 2003 17:15:35
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BAH!! 68k Browsers SUCK!!!
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