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timaclover has rose again Starting Member Angola 7 Posts	Posted - 26 Feb 2003 : 15:52:37 If you have any owner ship to anything that I have in my house, I want it all out by March 15th, no more bull, if I do not recieve a payment to ship your stuff out I will sell it and refund your money, this stuff has been a large headache for me and I am really sick of it all. Trash I have no money if you want your keyboard than just send me the money to send it to you. Email Me: timaclover@yahoo.com AIM ME : got007smilk I want payments by March 15th. WWLD? Edited by - timaclover has rose again on 26 Feb 2003 15:53:29
MrLynn Junior Member USA 394 Posts	Posted - 26 Feb 2003 : 21:36:03 [quote] timaclover has rose again /quote] 'risen'? This should either be in the Trading Post, or in private e-mail. /Mr Lynn The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn’t have a space program. --Larry Niven
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 26 Feb 2003 : 22:08:50 quote: If you have any owner ship to anything that I have in my house, I want it all out by March 15th, no more bull . . . The only bull here is that you still owe me the $20 stake I put up for you so that you could continue to be part of the auction when you were suddenly without funds. MONTHS ago, you said you'd send the keyboard with that $20 when the money came in from the sale of the PB you'd parlayed "your" stake in the auction into. You were supposed to ship the rest of my stuff COD. So far, the only thing I've received from you would be insulting crap like this that's posted in public. FEH! jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
timaclover has rose again Starting Member Angola 7 Posts	Posted - 26 Feb 2003 : 23:51:11 Let me put it this way. You can send money to ship and the stuff, COD will not work the post office has told me, or I can sell that keyboard and send you the money you used for the auction. Your Choice. WWLD?
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 09:18:10 quote: Let me put it this way. You can send money to ship and the stuff, COD will not work the post office has told me, or I can sell that keyboard and send you the money you used for the auction. Your Choice. So, you're sick of holding onto my things, while all this time you have never had the money to pay me back or to ship it as you agreed to do. Now you're saying you have no intention whatsoever of making good on that $20 loan and that feel justified in threatening me with selling the keyboard if i don't send you additional money on a deadline in a public posting without ever emailing me directly Grow up and make good on your commitments. quote: WWLD? WTF does that mean? jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 10:28:14 What Would Lithuania Do? 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 My Site: http://cine.sytes.net My Hardware Page: http://cineware.sytes.net
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 10:30:55 quote: What Would Lithuania Do? Surgical strike by a commando team in all liklihood, but keeping the body count low within the MLA is probably advisable. jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
tmtomh Junior Member USA 172 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 10:56:11 May I ask why timaclover has not been banned entirely from these forums? His behavior has obviously been unethical and in bad faith. Matt No rank Permanent 68k roommates: - "PowerMystic" Color Classic, 66MHz PPC601 card, full '040, 36/1.2G/enet, OS 8.1 - "Mystic" Color Classic, full '040, 36/700/enet, OS 8.1 - Q605 overclocked to 33MHz, full '040, 36/1.2G/enet, 8.1, Debian Woody
timaclover has rose again Starting Member Angola 7 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 11:09:22 If I was mean I would have ditched all of you and sold the keyboard and everything else and made a load of money for myself, I didn't and won't. I just want this stuff out. I know if someone wanted to send me a keyboard worth well over $1000 in value to me even though they owed me $20 I would, think of the value in $$ or collection. It would cost a mear $8.00 to ship, I think that has more value than everything in my apartment. I don't want to screw anyone over but I really need this stuff out before it gets lost or broken. Just let me know... What Would Lenin Do ? WWLD?
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 11:13:37 quote: What Would Lenin Do ? Have Trotsky killed. jt . Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF edit: Considering the way events have transpired, about the only reason I can come up with for 1) your off the wall value estimates and 2) your public postings about them over the past few months is that it's long gone, soon to be gone (whatever) and that there will be a public announcement that your apartment has been burglarized and everything of value dissappeared or some such. It's cute that you're now quoting $8 shipping when you were holding me up for an additional $20 for shipping it (fairly recently) when you finally responded to my repeated emails, IIRC. It is also interesting to note that your ultimatum offers to refund my original investment, I guess you feel entitled to any profits from the sale of my take as well as the profit from all the other stuff you sold based upon money you still owe me. :rolleyes: I originally stated that maintaining solidarity and comradeship here in the MLA was the most important possible outcome from theBig@$$BoxLotConsortium's efforts. Unfortunately, it appears that was not to be the case. You can still show good faith, live up to your commitments, mend the hurt you've done to your reputation and express regret for your unfortunate behavior. You've shown some maturity, backbone, and the will to behave correctly in the past, I guess I'm still hoping you'll do a repeat performance. It takes a lot for me to write somebody off, but when I do it's final, it's your call, Ti. Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 27 Feb 2003 12:09:22
Captain Z Mobile Ops Commander USA 637 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 13:25:54 First off, I want to apologize to TiMac for not sending the money earlier. My part from the lot cost quite a bit to ship ($100) and recent events in my life held me back from paying this. If you had the PayPal transfer method still available, you would have had the money months ago. I now have a check for $100 made out to TiMac sitting in my hands, ready to get dropped in the mail after work tonight, which should mean that you will recieve the money either Monday or Tuesday. tmtomh, lay off on TiMac... he has been screwed over a bunch of times this last year, and he has become sort of bitter to the people here. Back when he was a regular visiter here, he was a good person to talk to and a valueable member of the community. But ever since the BigA$$BoxLotConsortium's, things haven't been the same. ------------------ Captain Z - Mobile Operations Commander 68K Macintosh Liberation Army 23 68K Macs Liberated Visit Captain Z's Starbase of EV Stuff
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 14:19:40 quote: tmtomh, lay off on TiMac... he has been screwed over a bunch of times this last year, and he has become sort of bitter to the people here. I'd agree about keeping it in the BoxLot group, but Ti is the one who decided to do his posting publicly and opened himself up to criticism from outside the group. I hope you're not insinuating that Ti is the one who was somehow wronged in that deal. He chose to handle things all on his own the way he did, despite offers of help and alternate arrangements having been available. I don't see how he was screwed over by anyone else in the deal at all, if he's had other problems outside of that one deal, he could well have explained them to the other group members in private. Z, your tardiness in sending shipping money is the first I've heard of someone else not doing something they'd arranged to do, but Ti should have contacted you privately about that. I know I contacted you personally to try to determine what was going on with the deal and got no response. Ti, when you choose to make your own bed, you have to sleep in it and if you choose to air the dirty linens in public, the fallout from that is also your own responsibility. jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
Captain Z Mobile Ops Commander USA 637 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 15:35:40 quote: Let me put it this way. You can send money to ship and the stuff, COD will not work the post office has told me, or I can sell that keyboard and send you the money you used for the auction. Your Choice. Wait a second... something sounds wrong here. There must be some way to ship COD, weither it be via USPS, UPS, or FedEx. ------------------ Captain Z - Mobile Operations Commander 68K Macintosh Liberation Army 23 68K Macs Liberated Visit Captain Z's Starbase of EV Stuff
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 16:51:10 Ti, do you still even have my video capture stuff? Thats all I am really interested in. Or a cash equiv of $15 to $20. ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
timaclover has rose again Starting Member Angola 7 Posts	Posted - 27 Feb 2003 : 21:27:41 what do I owe you again ? WWLD?
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 04:45:14 A TV tuner, and Video in card for a performa-style machine. They go on ebay for $15-$20, so either the goods or the cash is fine be me. ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
MrLynn Junior Member USA 394 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 08:05:00 This is not "General 68KMLA News & Stuff." It is private bickering. Please confine it to private e-mail and spare the rest of us. /Mr Lynn The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn’t have a space program. --Larry Niven
foetoid Full Member USA 554 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 09:35:30 quote: This is not "General 68KMLA News & Stuff." It is private bickering. Please confine it to private e-mail and spare the rest of us. /Mr Lynn The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn’t have a space program. --Larry Niven True, while it is not "General 68KMLA News & Stuff," and it is mainly private bickering, it's here now. The thread has been created and so the only thing your or I or anyone else has to see of it is the title when we click active topics. You don't have to read it, I say let them settle their disputes here. It's can't really do anymore damage than already has been done, so let them carry on. It looks like things are cooling down anyhow. I don't agree with the way it was handled, but I can't change that, and neither can you, if a moderator wants to lock this, then let him, but really we can't do anything than escalate things by saying shut-up and take it elsewhere... They may come after you or I next, you never know, so it is better to let the moderators deal with things as they see fit and just let this stuff slide by without acknowledgement. ________________ foetoid, that's (fee-toy-duh) http://www.foetoid.doesntexist.com
MacMoose Junior Member USA 176 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 09:45:45 Uninvolved comment time When the original auction was mentioned in the "APB Cinemo" thread, I actually had the intention of participating. I watched for a day or so, and when Jeremy (Ti) got involved I decided it wasn't worth it for me. Was I the only one not surprised when things went sour? I know some of you are out a great deal of money, while someone has profitted quite nicely with little to no investment. To have this sort of action just pop up suddenly leads to anger not only from the parties involved, but also from the general forum base. My only advice to jt and any others harmed here: Contact an attorney to get in touch with this child's parents. We have a well documented and public record of most promises made, and I am sure that legal recourse, however drastic, may be in order. quote: It is private bickering. Please confine it to private e-mail. Unfortunately, this seems to be the only way to get Ti to talk. "Man's best possession is a sympathetic wife." -- Euripides (480?-406 BC), Greek dramatist ------------------ MacMoose Benevolent Genius, 68k MLA Total 68K Macs liberated: 22 and counting ------------------
dave1212 New Member Canada 65 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 09:52:26 Geez.. I was excited about the possibility of trading/buying some old parts for my 68k macs, the Trading Post has some great deals in it, but if this is how things end up, I don't want any part of it. I'm completely happy to be here, to be able to share my experiences and learn from you all, and I have a lot of respect for this place as a forum. At the same time, I hope that whoever owes whomever money has the common decency to take care of their loose ends. Liberated 68xxx Macs: IIsi, IIci, LC II, 2 Classic IIs Liberated PowerPC Macs: Powerbook 5300cs. Posting from a Dual 450 G4, running 10.1, 10.2.3, and 9.2.1 on separate drives. 512 RAM, 90 GB HD.
foetoid Full Member USA 554 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 11:25:03 quote: Geez.. I was excited about the possibility of trading/buying some old parts for my 68k macs, the Trading Post has some great deals in it, but if this is how things end up, I don't want any part of it. Usually, from what I know, things happen rather smoothly, but there is a risk involved. It's your own call, but I'm trusting of the people here, and I expect them to treat me as if it were and eBay relationship. ________________ foetoid, that's (fee-toy-duh) http://www.foetoid.doesntexist.com
MrLynn Junior Member USA 394 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 13:00:15 "Unfortunately, this seems to be the only way to get Ti to talk." How about picking up the phone? TI: Please e-mail all your customers your phone number and talk to them. /Mr Lynn The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn’t have a space program. --Larry Niven
timaclover has rose again Starting Member Angola 7 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 14:22:21 Mylynn you can kiss Mr ass. this is the only way I want to do this and if you dont like f*** off and dont read this thread. As for everything Trash do you want to send me the money to send your keyboard or what? Captain and I have worked things out, as for the rest I am waiting for your call. WWLD?
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 14:35:33 quote: Geez.. I was excited about the possibility of trading/buying some old parts for my 68k macs, the Trading Post has some great deals in it, but if this is how things end up, I don't want any part of it. I'm completely happy to be here, to be able to share my experiences and learn from you all, and I have a lot of respect for this place as a forum. Please know that this sad state of affairs was only due to a particularly complex multi-coastal team-bid for some difficult to inventory boxes of old Apple parts of EBay. Issues of how to divide the spoils, who claimed what when, who was dealing with whom, and what was fair given who had contributed what caused all the acrimony. It was definitely the "Perfect Storm" of ill-fated transactions. As foetoid said, simple Trading Post deals don't devolve to disputes like this. Glad you like it here! G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
timaclover has rose again Starting Member Angola 7 Posts	Posted - 28 Feb 2003 : 16:26:39 Don't let my mother's mistakes on teaching me responsibility give you new light on sales here at 68kmla. Everyone here is nice and friendly, a comrade always has your back, trust me. I enjoyed my stay but life brought greater things for me, this has been a storm yes I agree, I just hope the morning brings more light. WWLD?
~Coxy Leader, Tactical Ops Unit Australia 2822 Posts	Posted - 01 Mar 2003 : 05:58:59 quote: Mylynn you can kiss Mr ass. this is the only way I want to do this and if you dont like f*** off and dont read this thread. Ti, don't push it any further than you already have. ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit Mayor of NuBus City v3.0
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 01 Mar 2003 : 22:20:42 there is always a reason that I will make suer that I have $$ for purchasing AND shipping something before I go and buy it.... that way I can actually get it... the deal ALWAYS goes off MUCH smoother this way... that's just a GIVEN.... I'd say, as a hint for the future of general selling and buying, to ANYONE... don't buy if you don't have enough, and don't sell if the buyer doesn't have the funding... just the two cents of Cory Official 68k videographer
timaclover has rose again Starting Member Angola 7 Posts	Posted - 03 Mar 2003 : 13:11:34 so what is going on ? WWLD?
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 03 Mar 2003 : 14:14:42 quote: so what is going on ? I'm waiting for you to start acting like a mensch . . . meanwhile, email a shipping amount and your mailing address. jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 03 Mar 2003 : 15:25:08 I just want my vid stuff or a cash equiv. I already paid shipping back in june. If anyone else is unable to pay for something or such, and doesn't want it, please post so. I may be able to pay for shipping so that Ti can get it out of there. ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \| Edited by - Da Penguin on 03 Mar 2003 15:30:57
Eft37 Junior Member USA 193 Posts	Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 12:02:16 quote: Uninvolved comment time I watched for a day or so, and when Jeremy (Ti) got involved I decided it wasn't worth it for me. Was I the only one not surprised when things went sour? So no one remembers the trials I had to go through to get a trade done with him? I had to do a Mapquest for him to show him where his local Post Office was, he asked "how do you want this shipped?", I said USPS Priority Insured, it comes to me via a Mailboxes Etc UPS. Good luck to those involved.
cyberwolf New Member 91 Posts	Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 20:20:46 Hi TiMac! Long time no talk, really sorry to not have contacted you sooner. Anywho, the 9500 is mine, and I guess what I need to know is if there is any way for you to send it with anything other then USPS who wont deliver packages to my house. If you are having trouble getting it to a place that will send it, Fedex and UPS should both be willing to pick it up. If you cant send it with anything other then USPS I can still have it sent to my office but I would prefer not to. Other then that, just tell me how much shipping will cost and give me your address and I will drop a check in the mail within a day. So whenever you get the chance just drop me an email or IM me. (I leave AIM on 24/7 so that will probably be the easiest.) Anyway, sorry again for taking so long to get back to you and being a pain about the shipping ;) CYA! AIM: cyberwuf24 Email: cyberwuf24@aol.com
thenewt246 Starting Member 2 Posts	Posted - 27 Mar 2003 : 17:00:57 Excellent, a Jeremy bashing thread. Jeremy, you still owe me money or parts from a LEM Swap-list deal last August. Now I don't really believe that you will ship a darn thing, but I may as well take the opportunity to yell publicly at you. Edited by - thenewt246 on 27 Mar 2003 17:06:34
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 27 Mar 2003 : 20:13:05 WHOA! I don't seem to recall this being a 'bashing thread' I was under the impression that this was a thread for people who wanted to contact him about stuff they had in his house... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
thenewt246 Starting Member 2 Posts	Posted - 28 Mar 2003 : 22:26:47 Maybe bashing was the wrong word. It is a strongly worded discussion with Jeremy about the things he has at his house that belong to other people, some of which were paid for a long time ago.
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 28 Mar 2003 : 23:52:42 Ok... I was just making that comment.... I think that the reason he wants to discuss is here is because of the whole public moderation thing ??? Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
raWr Junior Member Tuvalu 491 Posts	Posted - 31 Mar 2003 : 10:11:28 quote: What Would Lithuania Do? -raWr Fleet Covert Ops
Fedorenko Junior Member Australia 463 Posts	Posted - 11 Apr 2003 : 00:44:45 Just a question, what happened to that Paladin keyboard?
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 11 Apr 2003 : 01:06:18 quote: Just a question, what happened to that Paladin keyboard? He still has it. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Fedorenko Junior Member Australia 463 Posts	Posted - 11 Apr 2003 : 01:10:13 Well thats a bit of a bitch. Did any of you guys actually get part of the package?
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 11 Apr 2003 : 03:48:12 I got part of my stuff, meaning the beige G3, a lot more barebones than jeremy said it would be, but i got it none the less. I am still awaiting my AV stuff, which he supposedly still ha and will ship later... ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|

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