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G4from128k
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USA
873 Posts
Posted - 20 Feb 2003 :  06:23:56
Thank you for fixing our little den of 68k happiness.

Most sincerely,

G4From128k

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Posted - 20 Feb 2003 :  06:43:03

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SpaceBoy
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USA
631 Posts
Posted - 20 Feb 2003 :  17:26:04
Has anyone looked seriously into relocating the Forums to a more, err, stable platform? Whoever comes up with a good plan will get my vote!
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catsdorule
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Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 20 Feb 2003 :  19:43:22
quote:

Has anyone looked seriously into relocating the Forums to a more, err, stable platform? Whoever comes up with a good plan will get my vote!
:-)
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Anything with php would get my vote (hinting to phpbb ).

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cory5412
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USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 20 Feb 2003 :  20:11:04
why don't we use PHPBB2 on my server when I get it??? of course... I'll just come back here when I have free T-1 and unlimited power... and a newer server that can handlemore... not that the Athlon700 with Deb linux can't handle all of us :P

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~Coxy
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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 20 Feb 2003 :  21:33:40
I don't see what's so good about phpBB.
If anything, vBulletin is the best.

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 20 Feb 2003 :  21:48:44
quote:

I don't see what's so good about phpBB.
If anything, vBulletin is the best.

~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
Mayor of NuBus City v3.0



phpBB is free vBulletin costs money.

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Da Penguin
Senior Member


USA
1094 Posts
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 :  04:49:14
I'd suggest more reliable hosting first, before we work on a new format. The forums have been great for 3/4 of the past year I hav ebeen here, but lately, they have been going down alot. They still work fine, when they are up, so I suggest that is what we fix first.

I'd offer to host, but there is NO way my line could handle that. My server is more than powerful enough, however. Oh well. If someone wants to help pay me for a $150 a month bill.... I will GLADLY get a SDSL line

If we do change formats though....I'd go with phpbb. Lots of features, and able to script more if you know enough php (cats! ).

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 :  06:24:18
quote:

I don't see what's so good about phpBB.
If anything, vBulletin is the best.

~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
Mayor of NuBus City v3.0



I agree! I really really really like the "Active Topics" feature of Snitz. As far as I can tell, both phpBB and YaBB lack this very useful feature (at least I have yet to find a forum that has it). I like that I can see all the topics that have updated "since Last Visit" or "Since 1 hour" etc. To my knowledge, both phpBB and YaBB force one to visit each forum and manually cross compare posting dates with when you think you might have last visited.

Please, Please, Please make sure that what ever is choosen, it has a "Since Last Visit" feature for showing all of the recent postings.

Thank you for all you work on creating this wonderful place.

Sincerely,

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foetoid
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USA
554 Posts
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 :  06:38:12
quote:

I agree! I really really really like the "Active Topics" feature of Snitz. As far as I can tell, both phpBB and YaBB lack this very useful feature (at least I have yet to find a forum that has it). I like that I can see all the topics that have updated "since Last Visit" or "Since 1 hour" etc. To my knowledge, both phpBB and YaBB force one to visit each forum and manually cross compare posting dates with when you think you might have last visited.

Please, Please, Please make sure that what ever is choosen, it has a "Since Last Visit" feature for showing all of the recent postings.


www.macfilmforums.net has YaBB and they have since last visit feature... I don't know how they did it, but I wish Fritter would do that.... Of course with their traffic I'd never get done sifting through the new posts!

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 :  06:40:15
quote:

I agree! I really really really like the "Active Topics" feature of Snitz. As far as I can tell, both phpBB and YaBB lack this very useful feature (at least I have yet to find a forum that has it). I like that I can see all the topics that have updated "since Last Visit" or "Since 1 hour" etc. To my knowledge, both phpBB and YaBB force one to visit each forum and manually cross compare posting dates with when you think you might have last visited.


phpBB has exactly that a since you were last here, example: http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/search.php?search_id=newposts there is a link from the index.

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 :  06:49:23
quote:

Anything with php would get my vote (hinting to phpbb ).

Anything that doesn't run off a Mordor$oft server gets my vote, even if it means running it off a Plus running MacHTTP.

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 :  07:27:09
quote:

phpBB has exactly that a since you were last here, example: http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/search.php?search_id=newposts there is a link from the index.

-danny



Thank you for showing me that little trick! I assume that it works on all phpBB boards? If so, I am feeling less anxious about a post-Snitz brave new world of phpBB. I still prefer the clean compact interface of Snitz, but the fat crayon font style of phpBB is not unacceptable.

BTW, what is the likelihood of being able to import the old 68kMLA postings into phpBB?

Cheers,

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Clinton
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USA
700 Posts
Posted - 21 Feb 2003 :  11:32:29
to copy the MLA archives to the new board would require a lot of manual labour, copying and pasting between the databases and the like.

as for the interface of PHPbb2, you can install other interfaces, and let the user set in their profile which theme they want the board to go to when they login.

phpBB2 has a lot more addons that can be scripted for it, like outputting posts to websites, or adding file attachments to posts, and most of them are well documented.

anyway, just me million or so turkish lira, what ever equals 0.02$

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AnubisTTP
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USA
308 Posts
Posted - 22 Feb 2003 :  06:58:05
If an attempt is being made to keep the forum compatable with 68Ks, I would not go with PHPbb. On my (compatarively new) rev2 iMac, PHPbb forums are painfully buggy. Text is rendered below pictures, searches do not work, text is drawn on top of other text, and pages sometimes do not load at all. I ended up not reading the MacAddict forums anymore when they switched to PHPbb. Personally, I prefer UBB, it seems to run fine on older Macs, and it has an active topics link that actually works, but I think it costs money.

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 22 Feb 2003 :  15:14:43
quote:

If an attempt is being made to keep the forum compatable with 68Ks, I would not go with PHPbb. On my (compatarively new) rev2 iMac, PHPbb forums are painfully buggy. Text is rendered below pictures, searches do not work, text is drawn on top of other text, and pages sometimes do not load at all. I ended up not reading the MacAddict forums anymore when they switched to PHPbb. Personally, I prefer UBB, it seems to run fine on older Macs, and it has an active topics link that actually works, but I think it costs money.

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Interesting. What sort of browser do you use? During the few days a couple of months ago when my iMac temporarily died, and the LC475 was my main Mac, I did several visits to MacAddict on the 475, and the forums worked flawlessly. Btw, this was in both iCab and Netscape 4.0.8

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Gothikon
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Australia
537 Posts
Posted - 22 Feb 2003 :  15:49:58
One thing I wondered is is Coxy or someone playing with the boards a lot of the troubles seemed to stem from those banner ads we had for a while.

Or is it the hosting? Or is it the forum actual software?

I don't think theres any need to go changing everything and I agree that importing the forums in to a new system would be a pain, it would be nice if it wasn't based on ASP, however... If the hosting is free (is it?) I can understand why we wouldn't want to change.

Anubis, I think it's something to do with your setup, I've used all sorts of forums on all sorts of browsers on everything for an LC2 upwards and rarely had any problems. Most forum software seems to produce pretty basic HTML anyway, lots of tables, old tags like <b> etc etc...

Finally moving the forums to a users machine may not be the best idea, what happens if there's a fall out? Someone hosting on their home cable connection, not good either. I suppose if someone works for an ISP or a large web design firm, big business, something like that where they could just cut a good deal might be alright. But it's Coxys descision in the end.

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AnubisTTP
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USA
308 Posts
Posted - 23 Feb 2003 :  06:11:00
I am running Netscape 4.5.1. The most easily duplicatable problem is, when reading a thread where people have posted images or have images in their signatures, the images will be drawn on top of the text in other peoples posts. In a thread where nearly everyone has posted an image in their signature or someone has posted a large screenshot, it is nearly impossible to read the thread without viewing the pages source. The problem also shows up on several other Macs using Netscape 4.5.1.

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Trash80toG-4
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2899 Posts
Posted - 23 Feb 2003 :  07:02:07
They had exactly the same bugginess with 4.73 over on the AAF forums, it was most notable in the threads with a lot of images, but browsing over there was so slow I never did it much.

I just plain don't like the look and feel of the new MAF, so I haven't been in unplugged at all.

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