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Gothikon
Full Member
Australia
537 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2003 : 16:16:19
I just read the following thread on xlr8yourmac.comhttp://bbs.xlr8yourmac.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/000755.html Anyway, regarding the actual thread, I think he responded a bit harshly but the buyer was being an complete Ass. As soon as I knew he was posting positive feedback I would have kept my mouth shut, once feedback was left you could safely lay in to someone if you wanted to! Anyway what I really wanted to see is if people actually expect to receive all the items that a computer originally shipped with? Their example was a Cube which came with quite a bit originally , kb/d mouse and speakers. Anyway I've sold quite a lot of stuff on eBay so I'd find it interesting to know. Personally I think you cannot expect to receive ANYTHING that is not mentioned in the description. If they say it has something and it doesn't you can report them to eBay so thats there problem. But if they don't say it's included you can't expect anything. Situations like this are also why you can ask questions to the seller. If you're not sure about something ask or don't bid! I guess the fact that so many people use iPix or Apples own pictures doesn't help this matter. I personally think thats why my sales often go higher than I expect. I obviously have pictures of the actual items I'm selling, where labels etc can be seen clearly. I usually composite a few together so I don't get charged for multiple images[:}] I suppose the only exception where you can hope to get anything extra are either: 1) When you can see a picture of the ACTUAL machine and it's being sold by someone who obviously copied and pasted a description which doesnt mention all those tasty nubus/pci cards you can see poking out the back. These ones show up quite a bit when some office pleb has obviously been given the task of putting all the old computers on eBay and doesn't have a clue. These is where a sharp eye and being able to recongnise expansion cards by their backplace comes in handy! 2)Occasionaly you get awful description of machines you know are likely to be loaded up. I've got lucky the later way a few times. The worse the description the less likely are people to bid and so your chances of getting it cheap go up. I've got complete systems this way a few times when all they mentioned was the actual box. Of course this is a risk but I've only done this on sub 10 USD machines where it's probably a bargian whatever it comes with. Anyway what do you guys think? Any bad experiences? Mac people are a pretty friendly bunch and I often end delivering stuff or having people come and collect it in person, which usually results in a fanatical hour long discussion about all the coolest mac stuff!! -------- LC 2, LC 3, Q605, Perf 638, Colour Classic (160 603e) 6100, 7200, PTP 225 (Quad 604), PM 9600, G4 Cube |
boredomconquersall
Full Member
Canada
613 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2003 : 17:42:22
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When you can see a picture of the ACTUAL machine and it's being sold by someone who obviously copied and pasted a description which doesnt mention all those tasty nubus/pci cards you can see poking out the back. These ones show up quite a bit when some office pleb has obviously been given the task of putting all the old computers on eBay and doesn't have a clue. These is where a sharp eye and being able to recongnise expansion cards by their backplace comes in handy!
hahaha. yeah. THnx 10000Th poster and 1000Th topic creator in lounge. and remember, if you try and install mac OS 10.2 on an early G3, you will go insane, and aquire a thirst for blood! |
cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms
USA
4679 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2003 : 20:12:14
the only mac I've gotten on eBay was the LC II, it came to me straight from minnesota with a super duper added bonus!!!! a HUGE box and a POWER CORD!!!! YAAY!then I had to go and borrow doof's monitor keyboard mouse and pwer cables then I still never got it localtalked with the 7300 but BOY was that a $1.25 well spent on a weeks worth of mac fun... if you've heard my brand new PC storyu... you know where this sad little mac went though [;(] Official 68k videographer |
shaktiman
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2003 : 01:52:48
Buyer be smart, are the keywords.It can be a very shady area. sonally would never buy a pc off ebay, because there is just too much to take in. I know more about low end macs so this is where I stay. I have read a few pc ad's which say "this machine runs win 98", but am thinking that yes it runs it but they wont supply it! I send quite a few emails, & often get some rather errrr........ so I could ask, does it have ethernat ports & they send me an email saying it has a nubus graphics card with a monitor port. Yes I truly have had some awful replies along these lines. You are trusting the person on the other end & not everyone is trustworthy. Ask questions, no matter how bland or inane & when you get a daft response ask again. shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1 , 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive Performa400(asleepintheattick) |
Gothikon
Full Member
Australia
537 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2003 : 02:41:42
Buying macs on ebay is deffinetly easier compared to PCs. For instance if an add' says "Working powermac 7100 some software" I immediately know that is has SCSI, ethernet, ADB, a floppy drive at least one graphics card (although integrated, i still know what resolutions it supports) a hard disk RAM etc etc.If someone says PC running windows 98 mouse and keyboard there are so many questions. Sound card? Maybe, ethernet? dunno, what kind of case? what kind of PSU. USB? Because all Macs have a model number that is easy to look up you can be 99% certain of what you are getting. It is also fairly safe to assume that if it boots most parts will be working eg. sound and ethernet. Speaking of people not knowing what they are selling when I bought a 7100 a while back the guy was convinced the AAUI ethernet port was a USB port! I know that if someone shows actual pictures I am much more likely to bid. This for me is one of the most useful aspects of having a digital camera. It has probably paid for itself in that extra little bit people are prepared to bid when they can actually see what they are getting. It'd be interesting to see some statistics on eBay sales with and without pictures. -------- LC 2, LC 3, Q605, Perf 638, Colour Classic (160 603e) 6100, 7200, PTP 225 (Quad 604), PM 9600, G4 Cube |
MacMoose
Junior Member
USA
176 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2003 : 07:51:17
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1) When you can see a picture of the ACTUAL machine and it's being sold by someone who obviously copied and pasted a description which doesnt mention all those tasty nubus/pci cards you can see poking out the back. These ones show up quite a bit when some office pleb has obviously been given the task of putting all the old computers on eBay and doesn't have a clue. These is where a sharp eye and being able to recongnise expansion cards by their backplace comes in handy!
My best ebay find was from someone who obviously wanted to just be rid of what they had. They offered a PowerTools Infinity that wasn't working. The seller posted pictures, and four of the five PCI slots were full, and it looked like it had a G3 upgrade in it. I "lowballed" the bid at $35.00 with two days to go, thinking it would obviously go much higher based on the pic alone. When the auction ended, I was the high bidder at $31.00. When I finally got the computer, I quickly discovered why it wasn't working: the power supply was unplugged! The four PCI cards: USB, ethernet, SCSI, and an ATI Rage 16mb video card! The best part: 3 hard drives(1 4.0GB IDE and 2 9.1GB SCSI), a 4x CD burner, and a Sonnet G3/350 L2 upgrade! Needless to say, I was very happy with the purchase and left positive feedback. I even contacted the seller afterwards and offered to back-up anything that was still on the hard drive, and was informed that the computer hadn't been used for a few months, so there was nothing important on the drives. Anyway, just my ebay tale. ------------------ MacMoose Benevolent Genius, 68k MLA Total 68K Macs liberated: 22 and counting ------------------
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shaktiman
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2003 : 12:43:08
Actual pictures are a must, having said that, when I go onto ebay and then onto macs the page takes an age to load because of those ads for g3's etc which people have paid to have displayed. I purposefully skip these & so them having large pics would be a negative.I understand that my internet access & my computer are fairly slow but this is not really the point, I would rather have a clear normal quality pic than a high quality pic at funny angles of a shiny g3. Perhaps all the mac lovers just browse ebay in the hopes of seeing a shiny mac? Only a tongue in cheek joke you understand. Well done to mac moose for a good buy;-) shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1 , 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive Performa400(asleepintheattick) |
Gothikon
Full Member
Australia
537 Posts |
Posted - 16 Feb 2003 : 14:10:49
Wow Great find MacMoose! It was worth it just just for the burner!-------- LC 2, LC 3, Q605, Perf 638, Colour Classic (160 603e) 6100, 7200, PTP 225 (Quad 604), PM 9600, G4 Cube |
maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 19 Feb 2003 : 23:08:07
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the only mac I've gotten on eBay was the LC II, it came to me straight from minnesota with a super duper added bonus!!!! a HUGE box and a POWER CORD!!!! YAAY!then I had to go and borrow doof's monitor keyboard mouse and pwer cables then I still never got it localtalked with the 7300 but BOY was that a $1.25 well spent on a weeks worth of mac fun...
Heh, sorta sounds like my Quadra 700. iGot a power cable, 2 ADB mice and a PlainTalk mic i didn't know i was gonna get, all for the cost of shipping....10 bucks that was definately well spent. Of course though, I haven't seen the thing for about a month because we've been busy moving and stuff. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
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