I get a "Palatino-Roman" embedded font extraction error in opening a LOT of the DevNotes. I can get at the info, but either a font to install or one to uninstall (conflict?) in order to work around this nonsense would be great. Looks like Adobe mentions some windows encoding info that's missing in some files, but that doesn't sound right for a match with a problem with Apple's PDFs. :-/

Google wasn't much help here, I need some hints or guidance on parameter refinement/terminology.

The problem seems to exist in Acrobat 5.0.5, 4 and 3.somethingorother under 9.1, 9.0 and 7.5.somethingorother . . . in various combinations. :rolleyes:

btw: this is a test to see if the MLA or 'fritter comes up with a workable solution or a good lead to an answer first!

Progress! . . . off the wall . . . but progress, nonetheless!

Searched for Acrobat, thinking maybe Reader 4.x would display the .txt via ATM upgrade . . . and found the Acrobat Exchange LE 2.0.1 installer freebie included on some DevCDs from somewhere or other (undisclosed orchard or truck garden) from sometime back in the Duo era . . . that I'd found abandoned on my doorstep in a basket one morning . . .

. . . and now I have .txt AND Graphics displayed onscreen by a 7-8 year old application!

. . . so what's the deal with the current Acrobat Reader/ATM combo?

:rolleyes:

I ran across this tidbit in http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=2249

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Many a Distiller user has received an error message announcing that a font could not be embedded in a PDF file -- based on the stored embedding bit information -- despite the author's desire. Acrobat Distiller 4.0 initially was more strict than was required in certain instances -- it sometimes disallowed embedding of a certain font even though the author's intent was to allow it. Several years back I worked with colleague Rich Sprague, a knowledgeable prepress user of and advocate for PDF, to detail the circumstances on how and why this happened, which we shared with Adobe's Acrobat team. The glitch turned out to be a flaw in how Fontographer arbitrarily set the embedding bit in user-created fonts. After verifying the problem, Adobe made a change to Distiller 4.0 to accommodate the specific situation -- so that Distiller was not being misled into forbidding embedding where the font specifically and expressly didn't disallow it.

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Of course, what do I know about all this junk. If it were up to me I'd be fine if the entire world only had the fonts that came with the original 128k (in fact I'd be fine with just Geneva and Monaco). I have a low tolerance for overdesigned documents and all that psychobabble about emotional responses to typefaces. So, I realy dont care about making sure that I have Bold DemiItalic Avante Lucida Dingbats. I guess I am trying to say that maybe you should not look to me as a font of wisdom.

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I've done hand lettering professionally since the bicentennial and done design work in Fontographer since '88(?) and I feel the same way about foo-foo font fanciness! s

I like variety in them tho, the shop was an "helvetica free zone" for the longest time, my desktop designer friends always got the biggest kick out of that concept!

Thanks for the response, seems like nobody has noticed my posts lately . .. :-/ . . . too esoteric?

Whatever . . . I'm off to D.C. for a few days, ttfn!

jt ™.
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p.s. thx to the Ancient Acrobat Exchange install, I've got half the Duo System DevNote printed out and ready to read on the ride down there!

Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 14 Feb 2003 08:17:29

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Thanks for the response, seems like nobody has noticed my posts lately . .. :-/ . . . too esoteric?

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Edited by - tmtomh on 14 Feb 2003 09:42:17

www.stone.com -- Stone Design has an app called PStill. It's OS X-only, but it solves this problem with these DevNotes. Among many other things, PStill is able to reprocess PDFs. There are font options for processing, and the trick is to use them to remove the troublesome "embedded but not really embedded" Palatino Roman font. So you uncheck all the font options -- this means that no font information included in the file, so the destination Mac's copy of Acrobat Reader will subtitute all the fonts with the generic Multiple Master serif and sanserif fonts that get installed automatically when you isntall Acrobat Reader.

Anyway, processing the DevNotes in question through PStill with the aforementioned font settings results in a perfectly readable -- and 40% smaller -- PDF file!

The only weird thing is, the bookmark list seems to have disappeared. I've gone through all the preferences, and the FAQ, several times, and I can't seem to figure out why this happens. I'm guessing it's a byproduct of another processing pref. But I don't have the time or patience for more experimentation right now.

Anyway, happy hunting, Trash!

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Thanks for the response, seems like nobody has noticed my posts lately . .. :-/ . . . too esoteric?

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I notice all of them, Trash -- and I've had the exact same problem you have with those DevNotes. In my case, I have been able to see the graphics and diagrams from the very beginning. I assume this is because of something about my setup -- OS X and Acrobat Reader 5.1.

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Thx for the encouragement, t, sometimes it feels like I'm operating in a vacuum! I'll check out your leads if Acrobat Exchange LE 2.0.1 lets me down, I think it's displaying/printing the troublesome files perfectly. Have you got access to any developer CDs to give it a try?

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