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Clinton
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700 Posts		 Posted - 11 Feb 2003 :  12:25:59
OK, I was reading the VPC 6 FAQ, and discovered that it does not do anything more than SB16 sound, and crappy graphics. There are some features that I like, such as Windows apps minimizing to the dock, and the start menu being in the dock, so one does not have to look at the windows desktop. I am wondering if anyone has written any addons for VPC6 that let it use the mac graphic cards to their full potential, and also give better sound. (I am wondering this, because I want to be able to play Unreal Tourney 2003, if they dont release it for mac :P )
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2965 Posts		 Posted - 11 Feb 2003 :  14:23:01
3D support in VPC is right up there with a manned mission to Mars, unfotunately. Using VPC as a way to play games just aint gonna happen...remember, VPC only emulates a Pentium 2, though in my experience using Windows 2000 and RedHat 8.0 it feels about as sluggish as a Pentium 1.

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700 Posts		 Posted - 11 Feb 2003 :  21:49:27
hehe, well, maybe when I get a TiBook, or AlBook, or somepolycarbonatebookofthefuture, I will be able to play 3d PC games on my mac. and cinemo, the manned mission to mars is actually quite high on NASA's priority list according to a press conference I saw on the NASA channel ;)

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2965 Posts		 Posted - 11 Feb 2003 :  23:23:39
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the manned mission to mars is actually quite high on NASA's priority list according to a press conference I saw on the NASA channel

Right...it's just not gonna happen any time soon.

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700 Posts		 Posted - 12 Feb 2003 :  20:07:56
quote:

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the manned mission to mars is actually quite high on NASA's priority list according to a press conference I saw on the NASA channel

Right...it's just not gonna happen any time soon.

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 12 Feb 2003 :  20:26:16
well VPC6 won't run in OSX on my PowerBook... guess I have to buy it legally now eh?

after that space shuttle... they might not like to go to mars quite yet...

ahh... dontcha LOVE those 4 MB... THINGS from VPC the video and all... my Dell had one I forgot what it was called though... I'll thik of it

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 10 May 2003 :  21:27:31
VPC is a waste of money when you consider that it only emulates a Pentium I, and that you can get a Pentium I and a Voodoo2 or something for next to nothing. Sure, a Voodoo2 ain't that great, but it's better than VPC's graphics.

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 10 May 2003 :  22:08:34
well I have VPC (for free) and it's pretty good... I'm not gonna go start playin Midtown Madness. on it... but it's worthy of some general junk...

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 10 May 2003 :  22:37:38
I got a copy for free, but it's not worth paying 300 bucks for.

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602 Posts		 Posted - 10 May 2003 :  23:12:56
Running the software on the hardware it was originally intended for is always the best way to go (especially for anything sound and video intensive).

Having said that what was the last PC hardware card every made for the mac computer? Did they ever get anything faster then early pentium 1's or 486's?

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 10 May 2003 :  23:45:23
OrangePC had some like... 400-500 MHz AMD/Celeron cards I think... I would like to see them still do more... that'd be cool...

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1226 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  01:15:32
I havn't got VPC, but I wouldn't mind it cos then I could run Gemulator.

quote:
Running the software on the hardware it was originally intended for is always the best way to go (especially for anything sound and video
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Running software on Gemulator is better than running software on Atari's hardware in my experience[:*]

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  01:43:36
quote:

OrangePC had some like... 400-500 MHz AMD/Celeron cards I think... I would like to see them still do more... that'd be cool...

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Yeah, but IIRC, they never used anything more advanced than Socket 7.

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747 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  11:15:40
Celeron uses socket 370, but a processor is prettymuch a processor at 500MHz reguardless of the socket. What might slow it down is any buffering circutry or long leads going into the socket. AMD is usually faster than Intel at the same clock speed.Go to Top of Page
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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  12:50:48
I like Socket7!

Have you ever seen a socket3!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!??!/1/1/1

that is the CRAZIEST slot I've ever seen... like... 486es and pentiums can go in it or something... it's CRAAZY...

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700 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  13:29:51
Socket 3 is a 486 socket with the extra pins for a Pentium OverDrive chip.

thats all.

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  13:40:03
yeah.... it was in this HUGE Gateway 486 tower thing... HUGE this tower was I wanted it because it was big and cool looking...

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  15:33:44
quote:

Celeron uses socket 370, but a processor is prettymuch a processor at 500MHz reguardless of the socket. What might slow it down is any buffering circutry or long leads going into the socket. AMD is usually faster than Intel at the same clock speed.

I think he was refering to the K6-2 500, the fastest, and last processor designed for the Socket 7.

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537 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  15:50:55
The last orange micro card had a 500 MHz G3 8MB VRAM IIRC.

Most of the people buying VPC use it for business software which is it find for it was never meant for games.

If you want any kind of graphics support you want Real PC, you can download version 1.1 or something from FWB's website for about 10 USD. It has support for VooDoo 1 and 2 graphics cards which were identical on the Mac and PC anyway. It's a bit old but if you really want to play emulated games it's your only hope. The Problem is the VooDoo 1 and 2 only support full screen 3D, the games which are least likely to run under emulation?!

Apparenrly in light of MS buying VPC FWB are resurrecting RealPC and plan to add support for modern graphics cards. There have been a few reports of this on websites if you want to go look up more details.

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  15:52:41
quote:

The last orange micro card had a 500 MHz G3 8MB VRAM IIRC.


......a G3????????? WTF? How do you run Windows natively on a G3????????

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  16:03:08
the P is pretty far from the G! and besides.... there wasn't ever a OrangeMicro with a PentiumIII Maybe he's tlking about the pentium III ERA version of whatever Cyrix processor... or AMD

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  16:05:53
Maybe. But I'm sure the last one they used was the K6-2 500.

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  16:20:42
K6-2 that's what it was! AMD

I want a PC with a fast Cyrix processor in it...

Let's go revive Cyrix and a start making computers to the design of some older Packard Bells... the multimediariffic ones that weren't anything special... we'll load them up with NT4.0 and NT5.0 (the betaversions) and creat an empire!

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  16:31:39
LOL....uWish.

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  17:12:45
iDo wish!!!

I'm serious I would like to start an inexpensive clone company and have good-linux on them or something...

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  17:32:03
Personally, I'd like to see a company go and reinvent CHRP. It would be cool if there was something that could run OS X, Linux, and NT 4. Only problem is th at it would get the attention of the 6 Colour Orchard Legal Department, as marchie would put it.

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747 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  19:03:44
Speaking of orchards, my house is surrounded by apple and cherry orchards. The cherry are in full bloom and the apple soon to follow. The only thing that sucks is they have to spray them with nasty chemicals to...GASP....AAAARRRGGH!!!! MY CHEST!!!!

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  19:05:23
Ew, argh, that sucks.

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  19:22:01
Chemicals are evil... I have to use this chemical caled "soap" sometimes... it isn't very nice...

I always use soap and wish our little RV had more room for it

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747 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  19:37:49
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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  19:49:18
Whats wrong with soap?????

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747 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  19:49:54
quote:
yeah.... it was in this HUGE Gateway 486 tower thing... HUGE this tower was I wanted it because it was big and cool looking...

deja vu, yeah, a friend gave me one of those cases. The model number is TOWER! I hacksawed it to the ATX standard and it took like an hour because it's like 16 guage steel. The cooling holes never lined up, though and I ended up abandoning it for a smaller ATX case.

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747 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  19:53:30
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Whats wrong with soap?????

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  20:03:44
Yes, i learnt when i was 5 that soap tastes like shit.

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  20:06:45
Soap is OK I guess...

gee I thought that ML5 would puke again or something...

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  20:08:17
LOL

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  20:11:32
heh...

I would like to have that case... but also I'd like an ANS700-... something just won't hapen...

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  20:14:49
iWish i had an ANS700, and if i did i wouldn't hack it one bit!!!!!!!!!

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  20:34:18
I would put a bunch of those Linux BriQUE thingies inside it... (just in the drive bays) it's not hacking and it's really really cool!!! noone needs even to know that they are the center of my SETI fleet... and the big door can hide them!!!

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5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  22:20:09
Cool. Maybe you could run the command line version of SETI on it? That'd be mad!

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700 Posts		 Posted - 12 May 2003 :  11:19:08
erm, ya..... about VPC then.....

*Clinton is determined to bring this thread kicking and screaming back on topic

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