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Clinton
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USA
700 Posts
Posted - 20 Jan 2003 :  15:27:38
I am booting my powerbook, and it comes up, after a few seconds with

Sorry, A system error occured.

[bomb] unimplemented trap
To Temporarily turn off extentions, restart
and hold down the shift key.

[restart button]

this is before any extentions load. if I disable the extentions, it boots fine.

any ideas?
CCC

[edit] I just realized I posted this in the wrong place, please move it.
thanx

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Edited by - Clinton on 20 Jan 2003 15:29:13

G4from128k
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USA
873 Posts
Posted - 20 Jan 2003 :  16:07:46
An unimplemented trap is *click* AAAAHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh!!!!! *splat*

Actually, the problem probably is a bad extension or corrupted preference file. That it seems like the bomb occurs before extensions have loaded only means that the bomb occurs before the mac gets a chance to paint the first extension icon in the corner of your screen.

Try turning on some of the early loading extensions to see if you can discover which one is causing the problem. Deleting the preference file associated with the offending extension may solve the problem. Sometime other preference files get corrupted to, like "finder preferences" and "system preferences"

Good luck,

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shaktiman
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United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 21 Jan 2003 :  04:25:20
lol, "unimplemented trap"

I knew us oldies might be usefull for something. It is a programming term & refers(in my day) to a line of a program being missing therefore if I wrote this;

10 ? "shaktiman"
20 trap 15
30 goto 10

then I would recieve an error message informing me of an unimplemented trap.

bear in mind that this may not be strictly correct as I never studied programming in the "proper" sense. But I think it will give you an idea of what is happening & as with most of the extension problems I usually suspect that two or more of the extensions are having an argument.

what is an error -19?

& now we are on the subject, when I try to type in this box I first have to click in the box & I get an error -50(I believe), does anybody else?

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The Lightning Stalker
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USA
747 Posts
Posted - 21 Jan 2003 :  11:38:42
I'll get this sometimes when I accidently run a carbon or appearanceLib app on OS 7. I don't know exactly what it means, but I think it has something to do with a piece of the OS that the program is trying to access not being there. It could also be caused by a corrupted program or extension, as G4from128k and shaktiman sugguested, which is probably what's happening in your case. You've got to remember that most extensions don't have the pretty little icons that show up at boot time, so it's probably one of those. Hope this was of some help to you.

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mathgeek
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USA
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Posted - 21 Jan 2003 :  14:52:37
quote:

what is an error -19?

& now we are on the subject, when I try to type in this box I first have to click in the box & I get an error -50(I believe)



a simple program called MacErrors is useful to diagnose these errors

-19 is a "readErr" "I/O System Errors"
-50 is a "paramErr" "error in user parameter list"

Not that these desciptions are actually useful most of the time but once when I was getting a ton of type 1 and 2 errors (bus and address errors) I was able to trace the problem to a bad RAM SIMM

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Alien
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Netherlands
269 Posts
Posted - 22 Jan 2003 :  05:18:55
A trap is a bit of code that is called to action when an exception occurs.

for instance, the 68LC040 CPU has no internal FPU. If an FPU instruction is issued to it, it throws an exception. Software like SoftwareFPU traps that exception, and handles it like a real FPU would, making it seem to the outside world as if an FPU was actually present, allowing you to run software that requires it.

In the case that a program issues an FPU instruction without checking if it is present, and if there is no SoftwareFPU to trap the exception, the OS gonks out and informs you that an ill-behaved program has caused an exception that is not trapped, because the trap is, you guessed it, unimplemented.

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