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Dutchworks
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5 Posts		 Posted - 07 Jan 2002 :  05:12:34
What are the highest versions of Photoshop, Illustrator, QuarkXpress, MS Office and Internet Explorer that can run on a Quadra 650 and where can i download those programs ?
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856 Posts		 Posted - 07 Jan 2002 :  09:58:57
I'd go with IE 3, which I run. We have this and photoshop 3 availble on our Hotline server (68k.torpedobird.com)

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1559 Posts		 Posted - 07 Jan 2002 :  15:51:14
Microsoft Office 4.2 is going to be the highest you can go on a 68k

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2965 Posts		 Posted - 07 Jan 2002 :  16:43:24
I've used Photoshop 4 and Illustrator 6 on a Duo 280 and they worked great. I don't think anything newer would, though.

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1559 Posts		 Posted - 07 Jan 2002 :  20:56:56
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I've used Photoshop 4 and Illustrator 6 on a Duo 280 and they worked great. I don't think anything newer would, though.


Would you mind *ahem* sharing *ahem* Photoshop 4 and Illustrator 6 on our Hotline server?

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2965 Posts		 Posted - 07 Jan 2002 :  22:50:40
Well, that' just the thing, I don't have them anymore. They were on a Duo that got literally destroyed several years ago. If i ever find them on LimeWire/etc. (fat chance) I'll do so!

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2899 Posts		 Posted - 08 Jan 2002 :  16:44:42
As I recall, I used to run AI5 for speed on my IIx/Rocket33 when it was my production machine. AI6 stayed in the box on the shelf until my Duo2300c/DockII came online in the shop.

I recently yanked the '040/33 off the Rocket and put it in a $10 Quadra 605. FPU works fine for my old sign cutting software, but I'd like to overclock the sucker to 33 Mhz. Anybody got any info? Will it melt my Portrait Monitor and how big a fire extinguisher should I keep next to it?

Anybody need a NuBus interface card to link a Mac to an IBM mainframe?

jt

Software that only runs on paleolithic CPU's, is no longer commercially availible and is no longer supported by the manufacturer is public domain, right? ;-)

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1559 Posts		 Posted - 08 Jan 2002 :  22:12:10
Radius Rocket? *drools* Mmmmmmmmmmmm

I don't think its a matter of overclocking the 605, you just have to adjust the bus multipliers from 25 MHz to 33 MHz. I couldn't tell you how to do it, though.

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2899 Posts		 Posted - 08 Jan 2002 :  23:07:15
It's the system bus that I'll be overclocking to match the rated speed of the proc. I don't think any of the LC/Q605 system boards boards ran faster than 25Mhz so I suspect the project will require a soldering iron and a crystal can. The glue chips, VRAM, SCSI chip and other generic parts should be OK, but I wonder if the ASICS will hold up or if noise or RFI might become a problem.

The Rocket was a dream machine, It kept me ahead of Apple's performance curve thru most of the Quadra era. I bought a used IIx as a case for it and the Panasonic 19 inch/2-bit(1152x870) card combo. It felt like working on a movie screen after doing graphics thru the periscope on my SE. I had 2 interleaved banks of standard 4 meg parity bit simms way before Apple finally got around to interleaved memory. Not too shabby for a cobbled together low budget system. I never did get that fast SCSI-2 daughtercard for it though (sigh).

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1559 Posts		 Posted - 09 Jan 2002 :  08:05:40
*drools some more over Radius Rocket*


Yup, the Quadra 605 and it's LC/Performa counterparts all ran a 68LC040 at 25 MHz.

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2899 Posts		 Posted - 09 Jan 2002 :  09:13:03
[quote]
*drools some more over Radius Rocket*

Was droolworthy in the old days, but compatibility maxed out at tuned 7.0.1 for me. Radius claimed it would run a vanilla 7.1 install, but I never tried very hard to get that to work and RocketShare wasn't all that hot with just a IIx to play with..

The Radius16 (w/copro) in the SE was nice too, I've still got the Radius pamphlet showing the early non-tilting FPD/daughtercard for it sitting next to an SE *foams at the mouth* Still looking for that combo (but then I'll have to keep the periscope handles folded up).

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1559 Posts		 Posted - 09 Jan 2002 :  10:42:00
*foams at mouth and starts violently shaking*
mmmmm SE/30 upgrades...One of these days i'll liberate an SE/30 with one of those PDS video cards that supports color on an external monitor and shades of grey on the internal 9"


*falls assleep daydreaming*

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2899 Posts		 Posted - 09 Jan 2002 :  11:18:56
[quote]
*foams at mouth and starts violently shaking*
mmmmm SE/30 upgrades...

SE (400k drive) upgrade! Radius16 and the FPD were Radius' startup products back in the Pagemaker (clovis point) era.

I've had my eye out for a Grayscale SE for a few years now myself.

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1559 Posts		 Posted - 09 Jan 2002 :  12:45:59
by the way, you are able to close your quote tags. just put [/quote] after the quote. Just think of it as html but with [ and ]instead of < and >

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2899 Posts		 Posted - 09 Jan 2002 :  13:12:25
quote:

by the way, you are able to close your quote tags. just put
after the quote. Just think of it as html but with [ and ]instead of < and >
[/quote]
/quote

never touched that HTML stuff, sounds like a switch on the DOS command line though, I'm game though.

jt.

here goes..

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856 Posts		 Posted - 09 Jan 2002 :  20:06:47
quote:

*foams at mouth and starts violently shaking*
mmmmm SE/30 upgrades...One of these days i'll liberate an SE/30 with one of those PDS video cards that supports color on an external monitor and shades of grey on the internal 9"


*falls assleep daydreaming*

Wow, I hadn't heard about that...I might just start drooling myself...that's quite a prospect...

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1559 Posts		 Posted - 09 Jan 2002 :  21:21:17
they were very expensive back in the day and are very rare today

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269 Posts		 Posted - 10 Jan 2002 :  04:15:42
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~shamada/fullmac/se30_minitowerEng.html

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2899 Posts		 Posted - 10 Jan 2002 :  08:25:16
quote:

http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~shamada/fullmac/se30_minitowerEng.html

Dream on…

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1559 Posts		 Posted - 10 Jan 2002 :  11:19:22
That <understatement>modification</understatement> would be alot cooler if the person just built his own custom case, threw the drives, accelerators and mobo in and run an external monitor from the PDS video card.

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637 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jan 2002 :  07:05:11
Apparently overclocking a LC475/Q605 is quite easy, and works better (more reliable?) if you throw in a 33MHz processor, and even better if that processor is a full '040. Check out http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~schrier/mhz.html for more details

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2899 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jan 2002 :  08:08:31
quote:

Apparently overclocking a LC475/Q605 is quite easy, and works better (more reliable?) if you throw in a 33MHz processor, and even better if that processor is a full '040.

Thanks, it does look easy to do 33, but I'll probably shoot for the higher rates now that you've pointed me to the PLL part swap. The proc's a full blown '040/33 with a massive heatsink that I yanked from my Rocket.

IMHO, chippin's just a wussy clockin' without a crystal can change,
shouldn't even count as chippin' with proc/swap cheat, gotta push past the rated freq.

If it ain't broke, CLOCK IT! 8-)

I'm going to miss the liftoff whoosh sound effect, but I won't miss crashing into RocketWare's sys 7.1 barrier at bit.

Thanks again!
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2899 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jan 2002 :  08:31:49
quote:

That <understatement>modification</understatement> would be a lot cooler...

I really like the disheveled open case look, kinda casual-cool especially the spikey-card stickin' out the case thing.

I didn't read all that closely, but they may be shooting for the 9"gs/external color dually setup that had you drooling on yourself in a daydream.

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269 Posts		 Posted - 12 Jan 2002 :  04:54:26
Well, what intrigues me most about that Tower SE/30, is that it looks like the case might actually fit back on if the accellerator board was omitted…

Hmmm, Ethernet and greyscale video… That'd be my perfect SE/30.

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856 Posts		 Posted - 12 Jan 2002 :  20:28:15
quote:

http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~shamada/fullmac/se30_minitowerEng.html

Dream on…

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The bit with the nubus direction changer was sharp - I had been shopping for one of them but now I'll just find a right angle connector and pop it on. Why didn't I think of that? It's so simple.

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2899 Posts		 Posted - 12 Jan 2002 :  20:46:36
quote:

The bit with the nubus direction changer was sharp - I had been shopping for one of them

Why do you need a nubus direction change and for which machine, the 650?

I'm beginning to like the idea of a board transplant of an SE/30.
Imagine a '30, networked, accelerated, grayscale screen, but one that's a 12" diagonal in a LISA BOX!

ok, I've officially lost it, gonna go play with the big boys.

jt

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