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spirit without
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Canada
37 Posts
Posted - 08 Nov 2001 :  19:29:57
so what kind of a chip do the pre 2000 series newtons have? i remember it was around the 20MHz mark, but that's all...

i've got a MP120 w/2.0.
anyone else here with newts?

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benightedbastard
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Australia
62 Posts
Posted - 08 Nov 2001 :  22:20:44
It ran on an ARM processor, didn't it?Go to Top of Page
benightedbastard
New Member


Australia
62 Posts
Posted - 08 Nov 2001 :  22:25:27
Oh, and I don't have any Newtons (they're mighty hard to find over here), but I'd take a 2100 over any current PDA.Go to Top of Page
~Coxy
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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 08 Nov 2001 :  22:35:18
The 120 and the 130 had a 20 MHz ARM, and the 2000 series had a 162 MHz StrongARM. (I'm pretty sure, but correct me if I'm wrong)

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USA
1559 Posts
Posted - 09 Nov 2001 :  10:57:39
i guess Apple was just ahead of their time or something...i saw a couple PocketPCs with those ARM processors...

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benightedbastard
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Australia
62 Posts
Posted - 10 Nov 2001 :  08:26:06
Yeah, the Newt was one mean machine. Current PDA's are really only just starting to catch up, specwise.Go to Top of Page
~Coxy
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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 10 Nov 2001 :  08:31:29
Definetely. Now there's speculation of a New Newton with G3 speeds quoted.

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 10 Nov 2001 :  09:15:48
I have A Newton 130, and I love it, except it's backlight is broke. In the next year, I want to get ahold of a 2100, and use it for years to come.

Did you know that you can Sync your Newton in OS X via the Newton Connection Utilities if you have it on your Apple Talk newtowk?

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~Coxy
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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 10 Nov 2001 :  09:22:11
I think you can, over LaserWriter Bridge s/w.

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blue7500
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USA
13 Posts
Posted - 10 Nov 2001 :  23:47:49
I have an MP130. It's great. But, I _really_ need to get a memory card for it. Anyone on 68kMLA have a 1 or 2mb Newton branded card they'd like to sell?

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~Coxy
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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 11 Nov 2001 :  05:16:48
How about asking in the Trading Post?

Anyway, I'm getting an MP130 for $50 AUS!!!

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Alien
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Netherlands
269 Posts
Posted - 22 Nov 2001 :  12:19:58
OMP/MP100/MP110/MP120/MP130: 20 MHz ARM 610
eMate: 25 MHz ARM 710a
MP2000/MP2100: 162 MHz StrongARM 1100

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 22 Nov 2001 :  20:07:11
Anyway, I got my neato MP130 plus a cool leather case for $58 AUS!!! The postage alone was $20.75, so thats $37.25 for the Newton!

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TiMacLover
Senior Member


USA
1282 Posts
Posted - 26 Nov 2001 :  21:43:20
nice deal

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TiMacLover
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USA
1282 Posts
Posted - 04 Dec 2001 :  01:42:39
I bet you didn't know that Intel designed those StrongARMs. Crazy but true only time Intel knew what they where doing

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Alien
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Netherlands
269 Posts
Posted - 11 Dec 2001 :  11:47:02
quote:
I bet you didn't know that Intel designed those StrongARMs.

They didn't.

Intel didn't buy ARM unitl last year or so. When the Newtons were manufactured, ARM was a joint venture of Acorn Computer and Apple.

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 11 Dec 2001 :  16:00:09
Ah, but did you hear THIS one:

When the PowerPC chip was being designed, it was a joint effort between IBM, Motorola, Intel, and Apple, with Sun off to the side dropping bits of information into the pile when they felt mischevious.

Well, before the chip was done, Micro$oft acquired some specs, and reviewed them. After M$'s engineers got done figureing out which end was up, they gave a report back to Billy Boy Gates. He screamed, and turned to Intel and said "you Morons! If you switch to this chip design, we'll have to TOTALLY rewrite DOS and Windoze! Either leave or we'll take windows to Sun!"

Because at that point, the Windows crew was designing NT for the Sun and Sparc archetectures.

Soon after, intel left the group, and designed the Pentium class of chips.

SO... How does the moral of this go? If M$ hadn't made Intel leave, all Window$ and Mac computers would use the same chip arcetecure, makeing software that was easily portable from one OS to the other would be relatively easy, and it'd be Mac vs Windoze based totally on User Interface.

And who wins THAT war?

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blue7500
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USA
13 Posts
Posted - 04 Jan 2002 :  12:17:08
I think the 2000s were 162.9 MHz. :P

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Posted - 04 Jan 2002 :  21:22:56
Apple Confidential has all of the Newton specs.

The original MessagePad through the MessagePad 130 had a 20 MHz ARM 610 processor. The MessagePad 2000 and 2100 had a 162 MHz StrongARM SA-110 processor.

On a related note the eMate 300 had a 25 MHz 710.

(this info is on pages 150-151 if you downloaded the book from the 68k mla hotline server)

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Posted - 04 Jan 2002 :  21:24:13
whups. just realized that Alien posted the same exact info. Sorry!

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