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stonent
Junior Member


USA
155 Posts
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 :  20:34:29
Neat little theory I had this weekend. I have an older USB 4x4x24 HP drive (made by Philips). And I figured that it was a pretty standard drive so probably a Mac version was out at one time. Well I tried at one time to get it to work on my 6360 with a USB card, but I could never get the USB card to work (wasn't a Mac USB card really) so I shelved the idea. Then I was digging around the other day and found a Lacie Firewire CDRW install CD. So I popped it in my 650 to look at it. Turns out it has a fat version of Toast 4.12 on it. I did some googling and found that Toast 4.x supports "most IDE CDRW drives" and inside the case it is just an ide device. So I fired up Basilisk II, added the drive as a SCSI device loaded up Toast and tada! It works!

Though only at 1x. If I go any faster it craps out on me. Now I'll be able to burn those 8.1 install images finally!!!

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 :  20:56:22
Now, was the idea here that the PC saw the USB device, and Basilisk was able to trick the mac system into thinking that it was actually scsi? I mean, that's very cool, for sure, but it ain't quite the real thing

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stonent
Junior Member


USA
155 Posts
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 :  21:51:37
True, but that was why I said "sorta". I just needed some way to burn a mac compatable cd using pc parts and this just happened to work. Partly the hack is that I am doing something that in real-life would be impossible, because there was never a 68k mac made that could utilize a IDE CDRW. Sure the 630 for example had a IDE hard drive but it is not capable of using a CD connected to that interface. Just lucky that the IDE code in Toast was fat as well. I mean they could just as well have made it PPC only code for that part because they could have been pretty sure that no one would use 68k + ide for burning CDs. This should come in handy whenever I want to do some video work in Avid inside basilisk and then burn some stuff. But first I need a video camera ;)

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 19 Nov 2002 :  08:46:48
Are you sure? I thought a 630 could use a CD on it's IDE bus... or does it have one of those Master/Slave problems where slaves aren't allowed?

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stonent
Junior Member


USA
155 Posts
Posted - 19 Nov 2002 :  10:53:34
I know it can't do a slave. Afaik either the 9600 or first g3 started that. On my 6360 I tried a CD set as master on the IDE bus with no slave and it would freeze most of the time, occasionally boot from the SCSI cd but the drive couldn't be detected even with silver lining or anything else.

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SE 4/20/HD/6.0.8 :)
Q840av - DEAD :`(
Q650 256/230/7.6 Woot!
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