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They should just sell MP3's straight. I know this would be difficult, but they should be looking into it. With the massive expansion in MP3 players, especially HardDrive ones brought on byt eh iPod, eveyone is going to need MP3s.

~The Penguin

As far as cracks, they've already released some copy protected cds (i i'll look for the link later) that people have cracked. most require little apps, and none are available for the mac yet (what a surprise), BUT the funniest one was the latest idea, which was a cd with the first track of all random garbage of data. Typical audio cd players would skip over the track, but computers would crap themselves. Litterally. You're mac would have to be sent to apple. (that's why i read that article, i think it was at www.macnn.com ... ) anyway, it was cracked before the cds with that protection were ever actually sent out. All it took was a permanent marker to draw on the track (apparently you could see the difference, like the computer part of an enhanced cd.) what might be happening is something new, i haven't looked into it yet.

If you all know me, you'd think that i'd get mp3s but i actually get the cds (i have 350, give or take a few.) I don't think the artists get enough money for their work. most of what you pay for goes to the record company. What I would like to see is artist's selling mp3s for themself online, i'd much rather pay them directly. but that's my 2 cents.

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I agree with both of you. I see no point in protecting things like this, someone WILL crack it, it is just a matter of time.

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jt ™.
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C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF

I have a PC here at the moment and am awaiting delivery of one of those lovely new iBooks. When I start doing some travelling I will only have the iBook and I'll be mp3-ing as many of my audio CDs (about 500 or so) as I can so I can just carry an external firewire drive full of them instead of tons (literally) of CDs.

If these CDs could potentially damage my iBook I will have little recourse but to wait (not long it seems) for the mp3s to appear on the net and use those instead. I'm not gonna risk damaging this machine for the sake of a CD.

I hope this all blows over when record companies realise that a) they ain't winning any friends here, and b) no matter how much they try to screw us, someone will always defeat them.

There are two types of people into movies and music: those that prefer to buy the originals and have a collection you can proudly show-off to people, and those who just want everything for free. It's a free country (as they say) so you can choose who you want to be, but if I see any titles that I want being copy-protected I'll just pass and get the mp3s. That'll be my way of objecting to this whole farce.

I'd totally agree with thelip saying that record companies are creaming off all the profits for themselves. It's very true and let's not forget that people have long, long complained that the companies are charging far too much for the CDs considering how ludicrously cheap they are to make. If I thought that by buying a CD directly from the artist they got ALL (not a tiny fraction) of the money, I'd do it (and have done).

Incidentally, another posible route would be to buy those "not for resale" CDs that they send to record companies. These often appear here in second-hand record stores. I bought one of these for Natalie Imbruglia's "White Lillies Island". The retail version was copy-protected (with no packaging warning) and caused a furore. However the copy I got played fine and contained no protection. Obviously they didn't want the embarrassment of it refusing to play on a radio station's equipment.

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The only people more reprehensible than the recording industry would be the font companies, IMHO. They sell a product as if under copyright protection which, by express intent of the intellectual property legislation on the books, is not to be protected under copyright. When the copyright office attempted to rectify the situation by removing all protection from fonts except for Trademarked Names and Design Patent for demonstrably unique Fonts in the late 80's, Adobe and their partners in crime managed to get protection restored for "the software which handles the typefaces" or some such nonexistant B.S. They're still claiming that the data in their fonts are somehow copyrighted and in the case of some companies, claiming the existence of program code within formats which contain no provision for anything but data at all!

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~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
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The only people more reprehensible than the recording industry would be the font companies, IMHO. They sell a product as if under copyright protection which, by express intent of the intellectual property legislation on the books, is not to be protected under copyright. When the copyright office attempted to rectify the situation by removing all protection from fonts except for Trademarked Names and Design Patent for demonstrably unique Fonts in the late 80's, Adobe and their partners in crime managed to get protection restored for "the software which handles the typefaces" or some such nonexistant B.S. They're still claiming that the data in their fonts are somehow copyrighted and in the case of some companies, claiming the existence of program code within formats which contain no provision for anything but data at all!

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Heh, in Karow's book he complains about the US not protecting fonts enough under copyright law, and their failure to implement the International Typeface Act (or something along those lines) to afford typefaces proper protection.

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Of course, the big companies undoubtedly do their own rotten schemes, but there's more to a certain font house's rendition than a new name. (not a lot more, tho!)

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To be fair (...) that's what one of the aspects of the Agreement was, the fact that the design of a typeface can be copyrighted, even a single character can be placed in escrow with the controlling body for use in design disputes.

Of course, the big companies undoubtedly do their own rotten schemes, but there's more to a certain font house's rendition than a new name. (not a lot more, tho!)

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jt ™.
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