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boredomconquersall
Full Member
Canada
613 Posts |
 Posted - 07 Nov 2002 : 22:20:13
this is my way of installing 10.2 on a beige G3. it worked for me. I wish to share my knowlage (of experience, mind you) if installing 10.2 on those nice computersget a SCSI drive (1.5GB-8GB, but 1GB is a minimum) and format it from 9.2, so if you somehow get stuck in 9.2, you can get back to 10.2 without a reinstall
get an APPLE BRANDED (crucial) external SCSI CDrom drive (I used my pathetic 4X... but it did it, and if you don't have an external one, swap one of your other external SCSI devices out of it's case, unless yours is a tower, and I belive it has more than one 5.25" bays.. does it not?)
*note
TERMINATION IS A MUST!!
do a couple drive tests in disk first aid in the 10.2 install proggie (it's a good idea anyways)
select the SCSI hard drive, and watch the magic, or, if the SCSI CDrom drive is of the 600I, the 300I or (god forbid) the wicked fast APPLE CD 150 (!!!) veriety, then go take a nap or have a beer (depending on age)
wait...
wait...
beer...
beer...
nap...
nap...
check 10.2 install
repeat previous 7 steps if needed aaaaaaaaaaand..... YOU BE DONE! enjoy 10.2 on the beige G3.
----------WARNING!----------do not repeat the beer steps more than 3 times... you face distroying something and another word of advice... do not unplug your computer or do the ctrl-cmd-power reset while running 10.2 is running. you risk the corruption of 10.2 or various other proggies... you even run the risk of damaging hardware (it's unix! when unix screws up... IT REALLY SCREWS UP!!) there. all done.
THnxnxn
"oogy woogy woogy wooogy dancein' shoes!"
10000Th poster in lounge. and remember, if you try and install mac OS 10.2 on an early G3, you will go insane, and aquire a thirst for blood! |
The Lightning Stalker
Full Member
USA
747 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2002 : 22:43:46
Great job. Now, where do you pour the beer into the G3? 
j/k
The Lightning Stalker |
thelip
Full Member
USA
729 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2002 : 00:41:04
i know your struggles all too well, my friend. also don't use the vst ata card, it's not supported on the beige g3 and legacy macs. Both the manufacturer and i both give evidence of corrupted stuff. _______________________
Sgt. Thelip
Heavy Weapons Specialist - 950 division
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Gothikon
Full Member
Australia
537 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2002 : 00:47:36
Hmm, never had any problems with the VST card in my G3 upgraded 9600. You do need the 10 USD update to make it OS X comaptible though.
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thelip
Full Member
USA
729 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2002 : 01:15:18
Yeah, i didn't have much problem with it in my 8500 and then an 8600 with osx (updated firmware), i ran norton systemworks occasionally and it would have minor problems with stuff, but nothing too serious. But as soon as i tried using that card in the beige, I could tell it was having problems. As soon as there was any major disk accessing it would either crash slowly or crash quickly, but either way, it crashed. I tried many different bus/processor speeds and even with it underclocked, it was screwed up. I went to the support pages for the vst card and they stated that the card is not supported on anything less than a b&w, so it might be something to do with the pci compliant stuff or something (the b&w is 2.1 complaint right? i think so, i know for a fact that the 8500/8600 were 2.0 and it was a major pain to find a usb card that would work.) i don't know what the beige is, but i'm guessing 2.0. anyway, i'm back to the slow ide bus.... oh well, it's working. _______________________
Sgt. Thelip
Heavy Weapons Specialist - 950 division
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boredomconquersall
Full Member
Canada
613 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2002 : 11:02:51
well I fount that SCSI was a lot more stable, albeit slower... it wouldn't even BOOT the install disk on the IDE bus, but I think i'll have more luck on an IDE hard disk, and this is why I need to backup my files soooooon... oh well. I hope my dad plans to nuke our hard drive this weekend (nuking a hard drive means formatting around these parts... hey! we should add that to the MLA vocab list... heheheh >= ) so I can use it to backup files, partition my HD, install 10.2 on that disk. back to your IDE card... I think it's from PCI timing errors, and unix in general is like a picky 3 year old... if you give it something it doesn't like, it refuses it, and it goes into spazms. it likes my mac's overclock... didn't have any probs until my dad unplugged my mac, and it corrupted the 10.2 sys folder, and half the apps on that hard disk. this is why you have 2 hard disks on 2 completely different interfaces... if something goes wrong on your boot hard disk, then your other one won't get damaged at all, and you won't have to nuke both disks. just some friendly advice from the local jaguar maul victim.
THbnx
"I'M GOING TO KILL YOU BEEBO!!"
10000Th poster in lounge. and remember, if you try and install mac OS 10.2 on an early G3, you will go insane, and aquire a thirst for blood! |
thelip
Full Member
USA
729 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2002 : 12:47:57
what i have is a 40 gig seagate barracua drive that i have partitioned into a 7.x gig and 32.x gig. Osx (regardless of version) requires that it's on the first 8 of the drive. I back up stuff to the second partition and to a network drive as well. I have too much school stuff that i don't want to lose. I'm not too concerned about the vst card, my next upgrade is going to be a b&w motherboard, so it will go in that nicely. The headaches of this beige box are worth it for me cause it only cost me about $35 and bus speed on the 8600 was driving me nuts. Trust me, you start to notice with a g4 450 in it. btw, i was also mauled by a jaguar.
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Sgt. Thelip
Heavy Weapons Specialist - 950 division
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boredomconquersall
Full Member
Canada
613 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2002 : 12:51:51
well I would like a beige G3 tower box so I have more drive space. can I swap the AIO mobo to a beige G3 tower case?THNXnnx
"I don't care what they say, I won't stay in a world without love" 10000Th poster in lounge. and remember, if you try and install mac OS 10.2 on an early G3, you will go insane, and aquire a thirst for blood! |
thelip
Full Member
USA
729 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2002 : 12:59:53
i don't know. i've actually seen a aio, a woman in my church was given one from her daughter (a computer techy from tcu). I don't know much about the mobo design, but i do know that it has the three pci slots and an external monitor jack._______________________
Sgt. Thelip
Heavy Weapons Specialist - 950 division
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ehurtley
New Member
USA
63 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2002 : 15:45:45
quote:
well I would like a beige G3 tower box so I have more drive space. can I swap the AIO mobo to a beige G3 tower case?
Yes. All beige G3s use the same form factor of motherboard. Any beige G3s motherboard can be swapped into any other beige G3. (Personally, I'd like to stuff a G3/366 motherboard into an AIO. Of course, I suppose a G4 upgrade and a Radeon 7000 would be better, but it's the principle of the thing!) Proud Liberator of over 25 Macintoshes! |
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