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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader


USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  08:48:17
Nope, no new G4 yet...maybe next weekend!

However, this weekend I did manage to pick up a couple goodies, and for FREE! I was driving through Burbank on my way to the Media City Mall and happened to notice a large, red sign proclaiming "FREE STUFF" in the parking lot of a production company on Victory and Olive or so. I made a U-Turn and pulled into the parking lot to find about a dozen people scrambling around loading various lawn-sale-worthy junk into their vehicles.

The first stuff I grabbed was pretty innocuous, a gallon of paint, a giant box of envelopes, some salad tongs, but then I found some neat stuff. In one box there was a 25' or so cat-5 ethernet cable, not bad! Next I found two mouse pads, one standard size and emblazed with the Edit Point logo, which is the post-production company where I got all this stuff, and another that was double the size of a normal mouse pad and green.

Next I found a copy of "Macintosh System 7.5 for Dummies!", which has been a fun read so far and has some really funny quotables in it (I'll have to start another thread with some of them). Then I found some really good stuff. First was an interesting PCI card, that was still in the anti-static blister pack and had obviously never been used. Made by Digital Origin in 1999, the card turned out to be a firewire card!

Now, before you get too excited, it isn't a normal PCI Firewire card. Instead of 2 or 3 6-pin firewire ports, it has just a single, 4-pin firewire port, the kind that's found only on DV cams. So, the card isn't made for connecting firewire drives, but only for capturing video from a DV cam (I'm also guessing that it provides very little power). I did some googling but didn't turn up much. Digital Origin made "normal" firewire PCI cards for Macs, but none of them appear to have been like this one.

Digital Origin was bought out by Discreet, who seems to have purged any reference to Digital Origin or its products from their site, so that was no help. I tried putting the card in my 7500, but it doesn't show up at all in System Profiler. I haven't tried TattleTech yet, but either way I'm guessing that the card isn't Mac-compatible. I may try it in one of my project PC's to see if Windows can play with it...though since it's made for video capture only there would really be no point.

Finallly, the last big find from the giveaway was an Avid MediaShare HVD network box. What thhe heck is it? Well, it's a 5"x8"x9.25" (H x W x D) beige metal box that has two fans with an open exhaust chute and seven high-density, 50-pin SCSI ports on the back. All but two of these seven ports are HVD (High-Voltage Differential) and the other two are Single-Ended, just like the normal SCSI used onboard in Macs. HVD SCSI isn't any faster than SE SCSI, however, it's advantage is that it can have a much longer cable between it and the host machine andd still function without data-loss.

The Avid MediaShare boxie takes advantage of this fact by letting you network up to five HVD SCSI devices scattered hither and yon inside an office/studio/whatver and share them with one or two (or more?) host Macs, but at much faster transfer rates than ethernet, and therefore capable of sustaining video/audio production essentials. It's a pretty cool box, and since I got it for free I'm obligated to try to get some use out of it!

I just need to scan ebay for some old 50-pin differential SCSI drives and then find the MediaShare software that runs the whole show!

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Edited by - cinemafia on 28 Oct 2002 08:53:33

Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  09:03:29
NICE peripherals liberation, have you checked the production company's site for hints as to the platform they were using those two toys on?

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shaktiman
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  09:28:45
quote:

The first stuff I grabbed was pretty innocuous, a gallon of paint, a giant box of envelopes, some salad
tongs,

ewww germ ridden salad tongs?

nice haul otherwise

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  11:28:32
quote:

Nope, no new G4 yet...maybe next weekend!

However, this weekend I did manage to pick up a couple goodies, and for FREE! I was driving through Burbank on my way to the Media City Mall and happened to notice a large, red sign proclaiming "FREE STUFF" in the parking lot of a production company on Victory and Olive or so. I made a U-Turn and pulled into the parking lot to find about a dozen people scrambling around loading various lawn-sale-worthy junk into their vehicles.

The first stuff I grabbed was pretty innocuous, a gallon of paint, a giant box of envelopes, some salad tongs, but then I found some neat stuff. In one box there was a 25' or so cat-5 ethernet cable, not bad! Next I found two mouse pads, one standard size and emblazed with the Edit Point logo, which is the post-production company where I got all this stuff, and another that was double the size of a normal mouse pad and green.

Next I found a copy of "Macintosh System 7.5 for Dummies!", which has been a fun read so far and has some really funny quotables in it (I'll have to start another thread with some of them). Then I found some really good stuff. First was an interesting PCI card, that was still in the anti-static blister pack and had obviously never been used. Made by Digital Origin in 1999, the card turned out to be a firewire card!

Now, before you get too excited, it isn't a normal PCI Firewire card. Instead of 2 or 3 6-pin firewire ports, it has just a single, 4-pin firewire port, the kind that's found only on DV cams. So, the card isn't made for connecting firewire drives, but only for capturing video from a DV cam (I'm also guessing that it provides very little power). I did some googling but didn't turn up much. Digital Origin made "normal" firewire PCI cards for Macs, but none of them appear to have been like this one.

Digital Origin was bought out by Discreet, who seems to have purged any reference to Digital Origin or its products from their site, so that was no help. I tried putting the card in my 7500, but it doesn't show up at all in System Profiler. I haven't tried TattleTech yet, but either way I'm guessing that the card isn't Mac-compatible. I may try it in one of my project PC's to see if Windows can play with it...though since it's made for video capture only there would really be no point.

Finallly, the last big find from the giveaway was an Avid MediaShare HVD network box. What thhe heck is it? Well, it's a 5"x8"x9.25" (H x W x D) beige metal box that has two fans with an open exhaust chute and seven high-density, 50-pin SCSI ports on the back. All but two of these seven ports are HVD (High-Voltage Differential) and the other two are Single-Ended, just like the normal SCSI used onboard in Macs. HVD SCSI isn't any faster than SE SCSI, however, it's advantage is that it can have a much longer cable between it and the host machine andd still function without data-loss.

The Avid MediaShare boxie takes advantage of this fact by letting you network up to five HVD SCSI devices scattered hither and yon inside an office/studio/whatver and share them with one or two (or more?) host Macs, but at much faster transfer rates than ethernet, and therefore capable of sustaining video/audio production essentials. It's a pretty cool box, and since I got it for free I'm obligated to try to get some use out of it!

I just need to scan ebay for some old 50-pin differential SCSI drives and then find the MediaShare software that runs the whole show!

666th poster and 666th thread-creator
Mod of the Mac II series Forums
Total 68K Macs liberated: 7
My Site: http://cine.sytes.net
My Hotline Server: 840av.sytes.net

Edited by - cinemafia on 28 Oct 2002 08:53:33


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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  14:15:18
NICE! iWant! Especially that System 7.5 For Dummies book.

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thelip
Full Member


USA
729 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  15:23:22
could that firewire card be a firewire video OUTPUT card? since that's what would be on a camera, i'm just guessing though.

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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader


USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  15:55:45
quote:
ewww germ ridden salad tongs?

Heh heh! Nothing a little bleach didn't cure. Besides, who says I'll use 'em for salad? They might come in handy for poking around inside of compacts!

quote:
could that firewire card be a firewire video OUTPUT card? since that's what would be on a camera, i'm just guessing though.

Hey, interesting idea. I'd never thought of that before. There really wouldn't be a tremendous use for a firewire/video output card, but you never know, there's a market for everything.

By the way, I tried re-seating the card, rebooting and running TattleTech but again, nothing was listed as being in the slot at all. Even if the card needs some special driver for MacOS, it should at least show up being there! I'm going to try it in one of my PC's as soon as I get the extra RAM for them and see what happens.

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SiliconValleyPirate
Junior Member


United Kingdom
273 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  16:50:49
quote:

Heh heh! Nothing a little bleach didn't cure. Besides, who says I'll use 'em for salad? They might come in handy for poking around inside of compacts!

quote:

Hey, interesting idea. I'd never thought of that before. There really wouldn't be a tremendous use for a firewire/video output card, but you never know, there's a market for everything.

Could be a convoluted way of recording thew computers video output to another machine in a high quality format?

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scchicago
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USA
936 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  20:20:48
NICE HAUL CINE!

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foetoid
Full Member


USA
554 Posts
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 :  05:28:06
Or could this mysterious firewire card be a firewire 1.0 card from 1996?! Wait... it was dated 99.... darn

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boredomconquersall
Full Member


Canada
613 Posts
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 :  14:16:18
oooh!!! I needs me a big SCSI case thing!!! IM me! gah!


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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader


USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 :  17:26:14
Well, boredom, it's not actually a SCSI case, it's a network box that's used to network seven SCSI differntial devices. You can't actually put drives in it, they have to be external drives that are attached to it!

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Kami
Junior Member


Canada
132 Posts
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 :  19:07:46
Boredom


Are you still looking for 4 bay SCSI boxes? There is a store near me that has a bunch of them. They are a little beat up with old caddy load CD-ROM drives in them. Don't know the prices - can check for you.

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boredomconquersall
Full Member


Canada
613 Posts
Posted - 31 Oct 2002 :  19:56:24
oh please do. do you have AIM or MSN messenger? forums take so long.... hell! get two, one for me, and one for ripping CD's at school! BTW, do they come with caddie's?

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