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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  03:51:29
About 3 years ago, i was on a site called "Hardware Hacking Cool Stuff, and it had a link to a hack in which you can make a GrayScale QuickCam a Colour QuickCam. However, knowing my luck, yes it lead to a dead link. Now, the question is: Is this possible, or am i right and this guy was bluffing? I always thought it was impossible.

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  06:01:28
quote:

About 3 years ago, i was on a site called "Hardware Hacking Cool Stuff, and it had a link to a hack in which you can make a GrayScale QuickCam a Colour QuickCam. However, knowing my luck, yes it lead to a dead link. Now, the question is: Is this possible, or am i right and this guy was bluffing? I always thought it was impossible.


Sounds highly improbable, but you never know, some companies have been known to intentionally hobble lower price point systems to protect high end sales. :rolleyes:

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  06:06:26
Could be a possibility, but i still think he may have been bluffing, all the same.

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  06:18:30
quote:

Could be a possibility, but i still think he may have been bluffing, all the same.


Sounds like a fairly safe assumption, but if it was really on a web page . . . IT MUST BE TRUE!

There is a good chance that the CCD used in the B&W version is color capable. Dunno about the conversion tho, it'd hardly be worthwhile to pursue today.

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  06:24:40
Yeah. But still, if someone out there reading this knows the solution, then feel free to speak up! Iwannahear!

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  06:48:46
Maybe the hack involved swapping out the CCD?

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  06:54:02
That could be a possibility. I don't even know how you'd get into the little biotch to begin with!

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  07:51:13
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That could be a possibility. I don't even know how you'd get into the little biotch to begin with!


:rolleyes: Then buy the OTHER little b . . .

I'll wager it's the suport circuitry or firmware that's different at the compression level. Tooling costs for housing a B&W CCD a/o matching it to the color unit's optics would be much greater economic constraints than the cost of using the same color CCD and laming the circuit board to hit a lower price point.

The CCD's could very well be rejected color units whose flaws would not impact on their use in a grayscale capacity. In that case, the circuit boards might be identical and the "upgrade" might be trivial from a hardware hacking perspective. YMMV WIDELY for the utility of the unit in color mode if that is the case, however!

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  14:16:43
Already tried that.

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 30 Oct 2002 :  18:59:08
Not what the doctor ordered, but fun nonetheless

Ugly manual color filter hack:

http://lucy.murraynet.net/digiphoto/cpfgc.html

Another MOD for IR:

http://sunflower.bio.indiana.edu/~rhangart/quickcaminfo/quickcammod.html


Astronomy MOD for longer exposure times:

http://www.astrocam.org/cooling.htm

Guide to disassembly:

http://perso.club-internet.fr/uranos/disassemble_quickcam.htm


Cheers,

G4From128k

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 30 Oct 2002 :  19:15:07
quote:

Not what the doctor ordered, but fun nonetheless . . .


ABSOLUTELY! I didn't know you can FOCUS those things! Can you do that without opening it up or is it only a factory adjustment kinda deal?

Does the image update fast enough (acouple of times a minute at a bare minimum) to be able to focus the image and zoom the lens remotely?

I think I need a new toy! I have a surplus macro-powerzoom-autofocus video camera lens that'd be perfect to put in front of that CCD!

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 31 Oct 2002 :  00:43:59
Thanks, G4From128k. Btw, you have to open 'er up to adjust the focus.

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 31 Oct 2002 :  06:06:37
The small size of the QuickCam sensor (4mm diagonal) means that if you hack a 35mm camera lens on to it, you will get an amazing 12.5X telephoto system. And, if you fuse the Quickcam (with the Quickcam lens removed) to the backside of some extension tubes, you can create an interchange lens mount. My guess is that a 200mm lens for a 35 mm camera will provide the equivalent to a 2500mm lens when mounted in front of the Quickcam CCD (with the lens removed). You should be able to do full-frame images of the moon and sun with this set-up.

Happy zooming,

G4From128k

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 31 Oct 2002 :  12:36:12
quote:

My guess is that a 200mm lens for a 35 mm camera will provide the equivalent to a 2500mm lens when mounted in front of the Quickcam CCD


I'm basically a fixed focal length kinda guy, gotta get one of these babies! My {url="
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/canon/fdresources/fllenses/400mmf45.jpg" target="_blank">400mm F 4.5 lens would be a 5000mm telephoto!

The surplus 9-54mm vidcam zoom was only ab0ut $12 so I couldn't resist. It even has a filter slot built in, besides the macro focusing capability. None of the sites I checked lists focal lengths for any of the Quickcam lenses, so I can't figure out an equivalent.

Has anybody got a spec on the focal length of the stock lens?

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