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llamaboy487
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USA
516 Posts
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 :  19:49:22
am i the only member of the 68kmla who owns a Performa 578? just curious, because i dont recall anyone else saying they have one


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2822 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  05:34:00
http://users.creative.net.au/~mla/mla_site/tally.html
If the one person on that page is you, then yes.

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oldmacman
Full Member


USA
713 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  09:13:35
I have a 575; they're pretty much the same machine.

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llamaboy487
Full Member


USA
516 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  11:03:35
i am the only person who has one! i wonder why thats the case? did they just not sell well or did they not produce as many of the 578? i feel special now or maybe my parents bought a "crappy" (i use that term as compared to other 68ks available at the time) computer; whatever the case i'm surprised it's survived as long as it has

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  14:25:15
No! The Performa 578 isn't a crappy computer, no way! I'm not sure though how many 578s were produced, although i do believe that more 575s were made...i see 575s all the time.

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oldmacman
Full Member


USA
713 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  15:44:03
The 575 series of machines is really nice after a RAM upgrade, a VRAM upgrade, SSW upgraded to 7.6.1, and a full 040, and the machines aren't bad to begin with. They run 68k games very fast, and if a full 040 is installed, they can run NetBSD and Linux. I play Wolfenstein 3D, Pathways into Darkness, Warcraft II, and Abuse on my Performa 575 all the time, and they run well.

BTW, does anyone know if there's a way to run the built-in CRT at anything above 640x480? Also, can I buy a soundcard for it? I've heard that LC PDS PAS16 cards are pretty cheap; will they work with this machine? Finally, is it possible to hack A/UX so that it will work on the 575?

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  16:22:52
Yeah. Its no secret how nice you can make the 575. However, I don't believe you can get the display above 640x480, which sucks. Ah well.

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  16:28:49
quote:

Yeah. Its no secret how nice you can make the 575. However, I don't believe you can get the display above 640x480, which sucks.


Go read all about Stuart Bell's 575 A/B hacks for CC's over in the CC forum on AF.

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llamaboy487
Full Member


USA
516 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  20:51:11
well i didnt mean "crappy" but i guess for the time it was released it was alright... but whats the difference between the P578 and the LC 575? what was the purpose of the whole performa series for that matter?

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  21:10:08
quote:

well i didnt mean "crappy" but i guess for the time it was released it was alright... but whats the difference between the P578 and the LC 575? what was the purpose of the whole performa series for that matter?


It was supposed to be a general consumer line and came bundled with software and at times even printers, IIRC.

ISTR that one of the LEM articles stated that many of the models were specific to different store chains so they could advertise that they would beat any competing price for the same model . . . guess what . . . it was a sure thing that nobody could find a lower price!

The computers are likely the same, but one might have had a bigger drive or more RAM etc. One model came with the MPEG Media System Card, but it was probably a 5xxx variant, I don't think it was a 580 variant, I don't remember.

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llamaboy487
Full Member


USA
516 Posts
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  21:16:21
yeah our 578 came with a Color StyleWriter Pro and a bunch of educational stuff, such as groiler's encyclopedia, and a MordorSoft thing about dinosaurs (which btw was pretty much a HyperCard stack) so i guess thats the whole Performa thing...

but why didnt they just do that with the LC's instead of re-branding? i guess Apple's business decisions have never made much sense

Oh and i've edited my signature to show my status as the sole 578 owner of the MLA

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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 27 Oct 2002 :  20:59:01
There was that, and also a deal that Apple signed with a couple of stores promising them exlusive model numbers.

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  01:31:37
Goddamn Miachel Spindler....

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llamaboy487
Full Member


USA
516 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  19:59:22
Yeah he did kinda suck didnt he

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  23:09:50
quote:

silly model numbering!


*cough* fraudulant *cough* pricefixing *cough* false advertising *cough*

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 28 Oct 2002 :  23:52:31
quote:
a Performa 575 had a lil HD and 5mb RAM


Actually, it was 4 meg, and an 80-160 meg HD, IIRC.

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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 :  00:19:20
Nah, it was 5 MB and 160, or 8 MB and 250, at least in Australia.

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 :  01:43:05
Odd. Ah well. WTF was the extra 1 meg of RAM for anyway?

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2822 Posts
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 :  03:31:47
So we could brag to PC users, who at the time got just 4 MBs as standard. No, I'm serious...

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 :  03:46:25
HAR!™

Either way, i reckon it would have been more useful to have 8 megs in the base model, and 12 megs in the next one up.

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