To replicate Homepage, iDisk, and email, we'd need the following:

•server w/ AppleShare IP 5 minimum (prefer 6 I think)

•web server w/ some system that would allow login, upload, web page creation via a website (Run on a Mac of course)

•email server

• oh yeah... a DSL or cable modem to host it off

would anyone pay a small annual price for that? a 68kmla.net email address?

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would anyone pay a small annual price for that? a 68kmla.net email address?

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It would work with 68kmla.net, and "username@68kmla.net" would work fine for recieving emails, but when you would log into the server, it would have to be "username@68kmail.no-ip.org", thats all.

As for homepage and disk storage, my bandwidth is THAT good, so someone else would have to attempt that. But using the service I use, it is VERY VERY easy to redirect sub-domains to other sites and address's.

I don't think I covered all points, but its early and my mind is bogged down. If there are questions or suggestions, feel free to post. (Cause you know all of you hold back!)

~The Penguin

And Peng-man brings up an idea/concept that he may not know the implications of (If you do, hats off!).

It IS in fact possible to have subdomains across the planet from each other... or we COULD have sub services, via dyndns type things, but that's not as cool.

say Penguin host a website on a Mac. It would be the front door to a network of systems, all connected via VPN (Virtual Private Networking). Other people would be hosting a couple mail servers, a couple iDisk-type servers, etc. It could even be set up geographically, ie Dana (EXAMPLE! I'm not saying she'd do anything like this) would operate oz.68kmla.net. I might run lakes.68kmla.net. JT may want to set up albania.68kmla.net

If done properly, you can even bypass the front door directly, once you have an account, loging into your geographic hub directly.

An initial account login could be set up at the main 68kmla.net site.

In essense, we'd be creating our own network inside the internet itself... very cool, and (again) properly executed, when one host goes down, information is backed up to some other servers, and still available to most users.

If people can volunteer their internet connection, then costs are very low. Mostly the price of the 69kmla.net domain itself, the dyndns cost, and maybe a couple trinkets.

"Small Annual Price" means like... $15 max I'd think (and hope)... but it would also mean that any number of people need to make a commitment.

~Marchie

We would have to work hard at that, but I'm sure it would be possible. I already have my server st up and barely see an impact on performance of my connection or the machine (unlike hotline ).

Mail redundancy is my biggest worry. I do not know how to implement this across multiple machines, but I'm sure it can be done.

no-ip.comis free dyndns stuff (the dyndns.org stuff didnt work with my router, but its free too)

Catsdorule i do believe had appleshare set up (still set up?) and it worked pretty good, so that is possible.

Any other ideas anyone?

~The Penguin

I share a 56k dialup via a router with my fam.. so other than design and remote maintenance, I can't do much (tho I HAVE figured out how to use Apple Remote Desktop and it's previous incarnation for pre-X stuff over the net)

Who is willing to set up a server? what hardware/software you got?

~Marchie

It is a 6500/250 with maxed 128mb of ram. It is running 8.6, 9 was too slow. It already has HL server and webstar server, and I have appleshare IP 6.3, just not installed.

My connection is not the best bandwidth wise, but in terms of being up, i do believ eI have a pretty good record (When i have dyn dns set up right! )

~The Penguin

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CCC

My ip is static (has been the same for a year now...) which makes things easier.

In the world of DNS negotiation, it actually DOES make a difference.

It's easy enough to set up dynDNS stuff tho.

~Marchie

dyndns works fine, i just have it set up for a static ip.

Report exact stats on what you have to use, in the way of hardware, and OS versions.

also: If you have a router/firewall/proxy server set up, what iss it, and do you know how to configure it to allow specific ports and traffic?

the exact services your system(s) will run will be determined by what hardware you have available.

I wish I had DSL... I'm at 19,000 feet form the local host tho.. 2000 past what Earthlink/Ameritech allow, even tho there are NO loads on my line.

~Marchie

PS, if you need a dns entry, let me know.

and marchie - I am 19000 feet from the POP, and I have Earthlink DSL at home. (do not confuse this with the T-1 Equiv. static IP system.)
CCC

Now what would the realistic benefits be?

These may be obvious to some, but the idea seems fairly esoteric to me at the moment.

better, more efficient internet access?
68k mac specific internet access, ie:- javascript, movies & things that run only or better on 68k's?

It would be great to get some ppl advertising for 68k machines specifically.

shaktiman

A 6500/250 with max 128 RAM and 15GB HD (I have a 40GB just incase, hut I doubt THAT will be needed.)

It has webstar 4.2 running on it which allows email, http (with virtual hosting), and ftp (although I haven't gotten that to actually work yet...)

I also obviously have HL server.

For now, my dsl Upload speed is absolutely unbareable, which means you guys downloading from me will get less than 10k speeds. So massive file sharing is kinda out for me.

If it would make things easie accross the board, I can install appleshare IP 6.3 on the 6500 for whatever use, but it would mean shutting the server down for a half hour minimum.

As for Clinton, I personally do not have anything to donate, but if i could, i would. Speaking of which, if anyone sees a G3 mobo going cheap, let me know. If I can get my hands on a barebones one, I have enough parts to put one together for a server, which means better performance and dual ata drives !

~The Penguin

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better, more efficient internet access?
68k mac specific internet access, ie:- javascript, movies & things that run only or better on 68k's?

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~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
Mayor of NuBus City v3.0

~The Penguin

Oh, BTW ~Coxy, are you going to register the 68kmac.com domain?

and many thanks for the good torpedobird methinks that a mirror would be nice, in case of the unlikley event that it goes down.

I have been studying the appleshare IP manual, and it is perfect for what we will do...
I think I can make it just like .mac

ok, that is enough for now...
CCC

just my thoughts
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I wish I'd noticed this thread sooner. I might be able to help out. I have a static IP DSL connection.

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DSL Modem --> Server/software router --> My imac

-danny

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to see the speed that I will be using.

nice collection, cats

btw, what connection is that on, cats? cable or dsl.

all of these three pages are on my server with a T1 equivalant line. Guaranteed bandwidth of 1.554MBPS, we are 1 block from the POP.

CCC

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