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shaktiman
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  07:14:28
What modem can I use?

With my Performa 400 I also got a 25 pin d to 8 pin mini-din connector cable(how lucky can that Performa 400 buy be for me:-)).

I am using a dial-up connection, but have serial speed installed allowing my Quadra 840av to utilise it's high speed serial port.

As I understand it my Quadra can send/recieve @ up to 230 (kb or whatever it is measured in), but now I am unsure if my modem can handle this with it being a 56k modem. If I purchased say a 230kb(lets at least pretend one exists) modem then would this work with my Quadra's fast geoport to at least transmit from modem to computer at the faster speed?

I understand the above to be a little garbled, I hope my point comes accross.

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Stryder
Junior Member


USA
382 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  08:18:40
If we're assuming that the port speed and the modem speed were capable of running at you're proposed speed of 230kbs, then the only limitation would be from you're ISP. For dial-up accts., you'd be calling into a 56k modem which then goes through the ISP's router and connects with their T1,T2,T3,etc line for the direct connection. For 128k speeds, normally you talking about a modem that uses two lines and in essence dials up twice then patches the signal together at your modem before reaching your computer. Mainly though, you're also talking about the shared bandwidth that the ISP is providing all it's customers. The more people on, the less you get to use.

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shaktiman
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  08:54:07
I allways wondered if you could dial-up twice & get 128k.

What about compression?

I was skimming through the LEM documentation on internet connections/browsing.

This document intimated that because a modem file compresses, although the isp is only doing 56k that this is perhaps quadrupled coming from modem to computer uncompressed?

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  10:00:08
quote:

quote:

I allways wondered if you could dial-up twice & get 128k.

What about compression?

I was skimming through the LEM documentation on internet connections/browsing.

This document intimated that because a modem file compresses, although the isp is only doing 56k that this is perhaps quadrupled coming from modem to computer uncompressed?


That's one of the good things about serial ports that do go faster than the modem :). What happens is in one second, the most your 56k modem can send is, say, around 5kb through the phonelines - that 5kb may, when decompressed by the modem after receiving it, come out to around 8kb. In that one second then, you receive 8kb from the modem to the computer, and have effectively received information at 8kb/second

Most text data such as webpages, text-only documents, or very simple pictures will compress incredibly well. jpg/mp3/sit/zip etc files which have already been compressed, won't see much of an improvement over the raw modem speed (usually).

Theoretically, if you had a very large file, all of the same letter (say, "aaaaaaaaa" repeated for a megabyte) then you could probably download that file at seemingly 23kb/second with a 230kbps serial port. Many machines only have 112kbps ports, so would only see a maximum of 11kb/second. Thats the extreme case, and real-world-data doesn't quite see that kind of improvement :D

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macaka
New Member


France
88 Posts
Posted - 21 Oct 2002 :  15:40:35
What's kind of dial run on your mac skatiman ?

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 :  23:36:09
if you have 2 modems, and an ISP that allows it, you CAN use Multi-Link PPP to get "double" your bandwidth. You'll pay alot for it tho.l It's not useful for homes really. If you were in a rural area and set up a co-op internet access, it'd be a decent method for the barn your modems are in.

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 23 Oct 2002 :  14:39:11
quote:

if you have 2 modems, and an ISP that allows it, you CAN use Multi-Link PPP to get "double" your bandwidth. You'll pay alot for it tho.l It's not useful for homes really. If you were in a rural area and set up a co-op internet access, it'd be a decent method for the barn your modems are in.

always thought a Geek Barn would be cool.


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