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oldmacman
Full Member
USA
713 Posts |
 Posted - 29 Sep 2002 : 20:20:48
Here's my system.PowerMac 6400/180
88 MB RAM
256K L2 cache
IBM Apple ROM 1.6 GB ATA hard drive
Quantum Lightning 730 SCSI hard drive hacked into the empty zip drive bay with a cardboard drive sled - ID 1
Matsushita Apple ROM SCSI CD-ROM - ID 3
Iomega 100 MB SCSI Zip drive - ID 5 Today, I used a friend's high speed connection to download and burn YellowDog 2.3 Dayton. The CD burned and verified fine. I took it home, stuck it in my 6400 which had been running LinuxPPC 2000 Q4, ran the BootX installer, and rebooted the machine. The X-based installer didn't work with the motherboard video; it defaulted to a text-based install. I went through the steps of a Custom install. I selected to use the last 128 MB of the ATA HD for swap and the whole SCSI HD for /, the same setup I had successfully used with LPPC2KQ4. I selected a base install of packages; I wanted to install X and a desktop by hand. The installer successfully read the package database off of the CD. During the install, the installer kernel-panicked, saying something about the kernel trying to access a bad area. I gave it the three-finger salute and tried the whole install again. The same thing happened. Does anyone know what might be wrong? Could it be my weird drive arrangement? On a similar note, does the 6400 support a slave drive with the proper IDE cable? I have a 2 GB ATA drive that I'd like to use in the machine, if possible. Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert
OpenStep Page at http://openstep.topcities.com/
Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180
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catsdorule
Senior Member
Canada
1627 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 : 20:27:36
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, saying something about the kernel trying to access a bad area.
Though i've never tried to install YDL that bad area error might mean you have bad blocks on your hard drive, try runing a utility such as norton to try to fix it. -Danny
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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader
USA
2965 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 : 12:20:47
First of all, I'm pretty sure that YDL 2.3 does not work on OWR Macs. From what I've read on their site, YDL 2.0 was the last version to offer any real OWR Mac support. If you need a copy of 2.0, I can burn one for you or you can download it off my Hotline server (when I actually have it back up and running).Also, no, the 6400 does not support slave drives. It's yet another Mac that's handicapped-from-the-factory with a crappy, 8-bit ATA controller. 666th poster and 666th thread-creator
Mod of the Mac II series Forums
Total 68K Macs liberated: 7
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Edited by - cinemafia on 30 Sep 2002 12:21:31
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jruschme
Junior Member
USA
196 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 : 13:20:47
quote:
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, saying something about the kernel trying to access a bad area.
Though i've never tried to install YDL that bad area error might mean you have bad blocks on your hard drive, try runing a utility such as norton to try to fix it.
I don't think so. That sounds like the same error I get when trying to install 2.3 on my 7500, except that I get it early in the boot process of the installer. Given Cine's comments, I was wondering... is there any modern Linux distribution which supports an Old World Mac? <<<john>>> |
cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader
USA
2965 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 : 13:26:02
Both Manrdake and SuSE have PPC variants that will work on OWR PowerMacs. I downloaded the current Mandrake ISO's and installed it on my 7500, and other than having a problem with non-apple CD-ROM's, it worked fine.666th poster and 666th thread-creator
Mod of the Mac II series Forums
Total 68K Macs liberated: 7
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My Hotline Server: 840av.sytes.net
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oldmacman
Full Member
USA
713 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 : 13:50:11
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Power Macintosh 6500, 6400, 5500, 5400, 4400
Quote from supported hardware on the YDL Website. Yellow Dog is advertised as being the solution for all of the Macs that OS X "put down." Also, the BootX installer comes on the 2.3 CD. I'll try installing YDL on the internal IDE drive and I'll report back if it works. If not, I'll try SuSE or Mandrake.
Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert
OpenStep Page at http://openstep.topcities.com/
Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180
PCs liberated from Windoze: 3
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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader
USA
2965 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 : 13:55:55
Maybe what they meant is that it will work on OWR PPC's, but that they no longer provide tech support for them beyond install 2.0? I dunno...I haven't been to the YDL website since 2.1 came out so maybe I was wrong.P.S. - Most of the problems I had installing either Mandrake or YDL on my 7500 were either from non-Apple CD-ROM's running the install or bad hard drives as the source. Even a drive that seemingly works fine under MacOS may not like a Linux install. Try having at least two or three different hard drives lying around to try installing on, this seemed to help for me and for people who've installed OSX via XPostFacto onto OWR PPC's. 666th poster and 666th thread-creator
Mod of the Mac II series Forums
Total 68K Macs liberated: 7
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My Hotline Server: 840av.sytes.net Edited by - cinemafia on 30 Sep 2002 14:02:00 |
oldmacman
Full Member
USA
713 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 : 15:07:25
Won't work. It gives me the same error, even when I try to install to the IDE hard drive and I don't have the other drive connected. I think I'll try SuSE and see if that'll work.Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert
OpenStep Page at http://openstep.topcities.com/
Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180
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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader
USA
2965 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 : 15:56:23
Yeah, try it or Mandrake...Mandrake was easier to install than YDL, for me anyway. I want to try SuSE, but haven't gotten around to downloading the disk images.666th poster and 666th thread-creator
Mod of the Mac II series Forums
Total 68K Macs liberated: 7
My Site: http://cine.sytes.net
My Hotline Server: 840av.sytes.net
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oldmacman
Full Member
USA
713 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2002 : 20:29:07
IT WORKS!Upon visiting the YDL site, intending to complain to them about my "supported hardware" not working at all, I noticed something near the bottom of the support page that said: quote:
Having trouble with older hardware?
Try the 2.2 kernel instead ...
I set up BootX with the 2.2 kernel that was on the CD, and it booted. The install went perfectly! After the install, I booted into Linux, and it worked! You'd think the Yellow Dog people could put the instructions for using the 2.2 kernel at the bottom of the install guide like they do for all the other special procedures. Wait a minute...that would make way too much sense! Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert
OpenStep Page at http://openstep.topcities.com/
Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180
PCs liberated from Windoze: 3 |
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