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FamilyHst
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12 Posts
Posted - 24 Sep 2002 :  21:50:26
I just purchased a Powerbook 540c for $67 on Ebay and was trying to download things for it on my pc and then put it on floppy. When I get it to my powerbook, I double click on the file (I don't know if this is the right procedure), it says it cannot open the file because the program that created it is not present. It does this on the .sit and .hpx (or whatever that other format is). HELP!

shaktiman
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  03:00:15
If your anything like me then you have many teething troubles ahead!

What os do you have on the powerbook?

I'm afraid you are going to have to download alot of software & attempt to install it. That is the only way to make it work because one piece of software relies on another, very much with the mac.

To me it feels like you have to "babysit" the os telling it what is going to happen & what it needs to do.

Plough on, blunder through it & be prepared to completly reinstall a few times.

That is perhaps the best advice I can give.

but we do need (& perhaps LEM(lowendmac.com) can help) to learn macspeak

.sea (an archive?)
.hqx (another archive)
.bin (y do they have this? often tagged on the end of one of the other two?)

b4 mac I knew;

.lzh
.arc
.zip
.tos
.ttp
.zoo

Mac is different.

On my ST I happily played(with limited resources a jerky outcome) .avi & .mov

on my pc I played .avi & .mov

My current mac will sometimes play .mov

The mac suffers from a similar affliction to the pc in that "you don't have a clue what file is supposed to go where nor what it is supposed to do"

This does get better.

I have learned alot & feel like I am continually improving my system.

I realise this has turned into a bit of an anti mac os rant, this was not intended, but I felt it nessescary to explain what I have been through beeing a newcomer to mac myself.

Do this, work with the os where possible & if at all possible work around the os.

Remember that mac os caters for ppl who don't wish to learn the mechanics of how a computer works & if you use one straightforward path (one repetitive computer task) again & again then this is where the mac excells because you don't get messy complications.

If you want to do complicated computer type work then my best advice is to use another os.

The machines themselves are good fun & quirky & this is why I am still using my mac.

If you mods wish to delete this feel free as I can see that having this much mac negativity could harm a pro mac site [;-)]

Better yet give MagicMac a try.

shaktiman

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Flash
Full Member


Australia
637 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  03:55:00
Well said shaktiman I reckon you're one of the few 'round here that thinks before he types

FamilyHst, you could have a look at the File Exchange (also known as PC Exchange with earlier Mac OS) and set it up so that all .hqx .sit and .bin files open with Stuffit Expander (I think you'll need to look for Expander version 4.5 for your mac, but I could be wrong....often am )
Another way around it, and this is useful for many 'odd files that won't open', is to open the file from within the application. That is, in this case, open Stuffit Expander and then press Command+E to expand a file (if you were in another application you'd normally press Command+O to open a file) and voila, you should be able to choose one of your .hqx files and expand it.

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FamilyHst
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12 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  04:35:46
I guess I am a little confused. I don't have Stuffit on my mac. I went to their website to download it and it's in .hqx format (isn't that compressed?). So now what? Sorry if I'm being a little dim in this area. I am a big pc user and own a Toshiba & VPR Matrix (awesome system). I just wanted to see how the "other" half or third lived (if you count Linux users). But now that I have it, I really like it. I got a little #$#% from few people on another board because I didn't purchase a new Mac with OS X. I tried to explain to them this is a learning computer, once I learn to use this then I might consider OS X.
Anyway, also, how do I remove a program on a mac (you know: add/remove in pc talk)? My computer came with some programs I don't need.
And I have a LAN set up in my home, is it possible to hook up my mac to it? and if so what do I need?
Thanks for everyone's help hope I'm not being a bother.

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  05:39:45
You need to go to http://www.jagshouse.com/ and get stuffit from there you cannot download a 68k version of stuffit from there website.

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Flash
Full Member


Australia
637 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  05:51:13
well, without Stuffit it does pose a problem. I'm not too sure what you can do there, but I do remeber there's another thread about it somewhere.....

To get rid of unwanted applications, all you need to do is drag it to the trash and delete it. Generally all files associated with an application will be in the same folder (nothing like a PC install which sprays files all over the C drive!) so you can just trash the whole folder to get rid of it. Sometimes applications will have a few Extensions or Libraries stored in the System Folder so you may want to take a scan through there and trash any unwanted bits.

As far as connecting to your LAN, well that really depends on what operating system you're running on your PC. There's a few ways to connect, share internet connection, fileshare and that kinda thing but I'd need more info before I could comment.

Here's a copy of Stuffit Lite 3.6 which is great for 68k Macs

http://home.iprimus.com.au/quadra605/dload/stuffIt_lite_3.6_installer.hqx

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FamilyHst
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12 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  07:09:54
Ok, I downloaded the stuffit lite version. Put it on a disk. Put it in my mac and double-clicked it, it said the same error message. I'm sure there is a step I am missing here but just not seeing it. I am ready to give up. Urghh.
I am using a pc with Win xp on it to download the files. My mac is running OS 8.1.


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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  07:35:31
quote:

Ok, I downloaded the stuffit lite version. Put it on a disk. Put it in my mac and double-clicked it, it said the same error message. I'm sure there is a step I am missing here but just not seeing it. I am ready to give up. Urghh.
I am using a pc with Win xp on it to download the files. My mac is running OS 8.1.



I just sent an email to you with the expanded installer attached. the subject is "stuffit Lite" if you haven't already got an expander, the hqx wouldn't work, AFAIK.

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FamilyHst
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12 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  07:38:25
Thanks, I'll give it a go.

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  08:17:16
Well that didn't work, has anybody got a full version of stuffit or aomething up and running that can turn the .hqx into an .sea to see if it'll make it thru the valley of of the shadow of Mordor$oft unscathed?

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Stryder
Junior Member


USA
382 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  08:56:56
quote:

Well that didn't work, has anybody got a full version of stuffit or aomething up and running that can turn the .hqx into an .sea to see if it'll make it thru the valley of of the shadow of Mordor$oft unscathed?

jt .
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Sure, which e-mail addy would you like it to go too? You know mine, just drop a line and I'll send the file with reply.

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FamilyHst
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12 Posts
Posted - 25 Sep 2002 :  09:03:24
Please send it to me at: FamilyHst@neo.rr.com. I really appreciate it.


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FamilyHst
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12 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  03:57:56
It's me again. All you nice people have sent me the files I need and I am grateful, but when I put them on the disk on my pc, is their something I need to do to them first? Also if not, what do I do with the files when I get them the mac. Do I double click on them? Is there some installer program or disk I'm supposed to use? Again I really appreciate your help.
Thanks.

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MacMoose
Junior Member


USA
176 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  04:46:44
I think what is happening here is that your writing Mac files to a PC floppy. Try a program like HFV Explorer, or TransMac to format the floppy as an HFS volume first. Then write the program to disk using either of these utilities and it may just work for you.

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  05:18:53
quote:

Anyway, also, how do I remove a program on a mac (you know: add/remove in pc talk)? My computer came with some programs I don't need.
And I have a LAN set up in my home, is it possible to hook up my mac to it? and if so what do I need?
Thanks for everyone's help hope I'm not being a bother.


The way you remove a program either run the uninstaller or you might have to search for all the files and trash them manually.

For the lan it might be more dificult because it's on a (i'm guessing) PC network so as I have never done that before ...


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Stryder
Junior Member


USA
382 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  07:47:47
With the stuffit expander I sent you, all you need to do is copy it to your desktop, then drop the compressed file you want expanded onto it. It's almost like puttin the file in trash in the way you activate it. There isn't any extention involved so you shouldn't have to reboot or anything. It sholdn't be any more than that, as long as the expander is recognized by the Mac to be on the diskette.

For the lan, you just need a small program to let the Mac be recognized by the Wintel Machines (dubbed PC's by the general public).

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FamilyHst
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12 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  08:03:38
Thanks for all the help. I will try it out when I get home from work.

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  08:16:16
Keep us informed.

-Danny
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FamilyHst
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12 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  09:39:20
Is it normal for when you look at the contents of a disk, the icons say "PC"? I copied the Aladdin file to my desktop, dragged the macsolitaire.sit file I have onto it and it did nothing, just sat there overlayed.
thanks

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catsdorule
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Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  09:54:09
Ok you must not have drag + drop installed another way to do this is to open Stuffit expander and in the file menu go to open and select the file there. and if the files are stuffed you don`t have to worry about the files losing there resource forks.

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FamilyHst
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Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  10:35:05
Ok, that didn't work either. I got connected to the internet with it ( I thought that maybe I could just download the apps that way) but I couldn't view any pages. The MSN tech support said I have to have 8.6 or higher. Maybe I should try buying 8.6 on floppies on ebay? Suggestions?

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FamilyHst
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12 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  10:58:53
Hello again, I was just reading on Jag's house site and it said that I could use Linux on my Powerbook with not problems. Any of you use Linux?


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foetoid
Full Member


USA
554 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  11:43:35
quote:

Hello again, I was just reading on Jag's house site and it said that I could use Linux on my Powerbook with not problems. Any of you use Linux?

I've never used Linux, but from what I understand because the PB 500 series all had an LC040 (except 550) Linux won't run. It needs the FPU. Thats what I understand anyhow. With your LAN, If you wanna use the internet, it should work by grabbing an AAUI tranciever, and using the TCP/IP control panel to set it to connect to your server. (assuming DCHP) File sharing with PC I have no clue unless you have X.2 or they have a 68k version of DAVE or something.

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  14:19:19
quote:

Ok, that didn't work either. I got connected to the internet with it ( I thought that maybe I could just download the apps that way) but I couldn't view any pages. The MSN tech support said I have to have 8.6 or higher. Maybe I should try buying 8.6 on floppies on ebay? Suggestions?



Unfortunally 8.6 does not work on a 68k but what type of internet access it it dial up high speed if it is, is it with a dhcp server or does it use PPPoe?

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Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  15:05:08
I have a dial up account on a 2nd line with MSN and also have Roadrunner on a Lan with Linksys. Someone I work with just told me today that he has an older MAC and has TONS of software! I was thinking I would see what he has and go from there and let you all know. Maybe he has the stuffit on disk?! That would be awesome.
Thanks, I will keep you all updated.

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  15:29:30
Well there is old software that you can install to make it do dial up you don't need apple remote access that is included with 8.6 also i've connected my Q700 to the internet via high speed and it works fine I could send you the PPPoe software if it is nessisary, with road runner does use use DHCP or PPPoe to connect?

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FamilyHst
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Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  16:53:21
What software is that? Maybe the guy I work with has it. It might be easier to just get it from him if he has it since I can't download it myself and putting it on disk isn't working. As far as the Roadrunner... I don't know what DHCP or PPPoe means. There is an option in there for LAN (in PPP I think). Is that what you mean?

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  17:19:44
Um I don't know I think you need to check with road runner, but dialup is ppp so that is good but for you to know if you need to install additional software. Also what Version of the mac os are you using? I need to know that so i can tell you what to install, also how big is your hard drive?

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Stryder
Junior Member


USA
382 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  17:57:47
quote:

Ok, that didn't work either. I got connected to the internet with it ( I thought that maybe I could just download the apps that way) but I couldn't view any pages. The MSN tech support said I have to have 8.6 or higher. Maybe I should try buying 8.6 on floppies on ebay? Suggestions?




Okay, I'm not sure why it hasn't worked for you. I decided to try it out the exact same expander on a PB160 that is running with less than the required physical ram and is running OS 7.1 when 7.1.1 is supposed to be the minimum.
I copied the program to disk and then copied to the hd of the 160. Then I doubleclicked the expander file which is actually a .sea of the full expander. It gave me the warning for the above minimums not being met. I proceeded anyways. It put the new alias on the desktop for expanding with. At that point a dragged a .sit file I copied over earlier to verify there wasn't a expander already on the drive to open a .sit with and dropped it on the expander. It went right to work with no problems and now I have SoundApp68k installed on the PB160.
The only thing I can suggest is try again. I know what you have has to be more up to date than this PB.

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foetoid
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USA
554 Posts
Posted - 26 Sep 2002 :  19:44:37
To connect over you LAN use the TCP/IP control panel. When that pops up, select DHCP and off you go. To get an ethernet cable plugged into your PB, you need an AAUI tranciever. Realatively cheap.

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