if i were trying to get an apple// I would probably go for a //c+ just because it's less pieces than any of the others, with all of the others, there's at least one external peice, even the IIc has a external PSU and as a person who travels from home to school and back again in just a single day... and likes to take computers with to places... less to lose is only better, besides, one of those cool little monitors... CAN there be anything cooler? now will one of those silly little IIc monitors run the GUI OS?? or shall I stick to TVs and larger composite monitors...

Add to all of this that software is still being developed for it, and a loyal following that I have not seen with the other models, and the Apple IIGS is clearly the best of the the Apples. (IMHO,)

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Well, iff'n it don't say "Apple" on it, it ain't really a ][ either.

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If somebody clone's an Apple's ROM and their lawyers can kick Apple's @$$ in court and continue selling it legally, despite every dirty trick that cupertino's pack of legal weasels can think of to pull, it's a ][! (just not a ][™! which makes it one BAD@$$ ][!

. . . and the expansion slot on the side is killer! Did any of the //c's ever have an expansion slot?

jt ™.
Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball
C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF

Apple //'s are what they are because that is what Apple named them period. You want to go by proccessor, then you have to explain the Centris line, Quandra line, Performa line, etc. The name is mainly to show a line of style, not specifics. Look at the LC Family.

If it made be Apple and they called it a //, then that's it. I understand what you're saying Trash, it was the same way with PowerComputing, which is why Apple bought them out. They duplicated a lot from Apple, but had more freedom to put their own improvements in. Thing is, it still wan't a Mac and the Newer OS's knew it.

"One slip and down the hole we fall"

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Apple //'s are what they are because that is what Apple named them period. You want to go by proccessor, then you have to explain the Centris line, Quandra line, Performa line, etc. The name is mainly to show a line of style, not specifics. Look at the LC Family.

If it made be Apple and they called it a //, then that's it. I understand what you're saying Trash, it was the same way with PowerComputing, which is why Apple bought them out. They duplicated a lot from Apple, but had more freedom to put their own improvements in. Thing is, it still wan't a Mac and the Newer OS's knew it.

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C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF

"One slip and down the hole we fall"

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They had a tendency to freexe up a bit more when compared with a Mac with equal or slightly less product grade. ie: PowerComp would have a 180mhz processor compared with a Mac using the same or lower, both running OS 8.6............
I think it really came down to haw Apple made the OS to begin with and why Macs usually remain more stable under normal conditions. The OS was designed with Apples Authorised product line in mind only and probably treated some component in the PowerComp as a third-party product it didn't like. If you were to take an OS that allowed equal compatability for both, then machine-wise the PowerComp would have beaten the current Mac of the time. That's why Apple pulled a Gates move and bought out, then dicontinued the company.

"One slip and down the hole we fall"

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"One slip and down the hole we fall"

Check out the new forum on the block at: http://www22.brinkster.com/originalstryder/db/

Ahh, the Oregon trail, Odell lake, Number Munchers, the good old days!

"One slip and down the hole we fall"

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Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s

Although I liked the compact side of the family, the IIgs was definitely a little lean mean machine, and subsequent developments made it even better. It was probably the most mature 16-bit project of the time, and with its open architecture it came as a close second to the Amiga in terms of adaptability. The times were-a-changin', though, and the Apple II line was scheduled to shuffle off stage...

My ROM 01 IIgs is still working well after all these years, running applications and games, and I think that fact alone speaks volumes about its worth. It's a pretty slick machine, and if it can still keep my syster hooked up with Arkanoid II the same way it used to be years ago, hats off to the winner!

Later.

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Everybody who made a clone had their @$$es sued by Apple, but V-Tech's clean-room ROM clone allowed them to kick Apple's @$$ in court! They were the only company ever to beat apple on that kind of infringement case! GO, V-Tech!

jt ™.
Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball
C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF

but i never could figure out why some of them were ]['s and some were //'s... and my cousin had a /// and a monochrome green-on-black Monitor ///... i hated that pile of crap (couldnt even play Number Munchers)

actually, what was the point of the ///? it wasnt anything special, was it?
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