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bluepxl
Starting Member
USA
22 Posts |
 Posted - 23 Aug 2002 : 19:09:47
hi, i'm having a problem networking this old LC of mine. it's just a plain ol macintosh LC that i got for $3 at a thrift store. the OS is system 7.1. it actually came installed with an ethernet card (that says technology works on it). i finally located the driver for it and installed it, yet it still would not work. i've tried everything... selecting "ethernet" over "local" or whatever in the network thing in the control panels, making sure appletalk is active, and also going to mactcp and even defining the necessary IP address and gateway. i'm still getting no connection to the internet as it works fine with all my other computers (which happen to be much newer anyway). what's the deal? i'd really like to get this classic online to see what little apps i can run. thanks! |
cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader
USA
2965 Posts |
Posted - 23 Aug 2002 : 19:24:44
First of all, make sure the OpenTransport extention is present in the extention folder inside the system folder, and that TCP/IP is present in control panels. If you're trying to get web acces, you don't want or need AppleTalk on (unless you also want to connect directly with other macs at the same time). Assuming you're using DSL/Cable/T1 or anything else with a dynamic IP as your access, then all you should do is go into the TCP/IP control panel and set it to "ethernet" and "DHCP". The fact that there is an option for ethernet at all lets you know that the ethernet driver is present and loaded. If you have a static IP you can put it in manually, as you mentioned.If it's still not working, then there's most likely a corruption of OT, TCP/IP, both, or something else in the system. A clean, reinstall of System 7.1 is a sure-fire fix, especially if you have another Mac that you can download the disk image to from our 68k MLA hotline server (68k.dynodns.org or 68k.torpediobird.com) and put on some floppies. 666th poster and 666th thread-creator
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oldmacman
Full Member
USA
713 Posts |
Posted - 23 Aug 2002 : 19:30:00
System 7.1 does not come with Open Transport, using MacTCP instead.The only HL server up now, IIRC, is 68k.torpedobird.org. Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert
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bluepxl
Starting Member
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2002 : 02:34:46
exactly, only has MacTCP. and in there, i've done all the IP settings i can think of possible. still nothing... i guess i'll end up upgrading to system 7.5 if it has opentransport with automatic dhcp and all that jazz....
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Squibix
Starting Member
45 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2002 : 07:16:43
quote:
i guess i'll end up upgrading to system 7.5 if it has opentransport with automatic dhcp and all that jazz....
As I understand it, you can install Open transport with 7.1; at least I hope you can, as I'm planning to 'downgrade' my Quadra to 7.1 at some point. Dana has links to what you need on her site.
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bluepxl
Starting Member
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2002 : 12:43:36
well, i gave open transport a try... only to find that when starting the install it said that it would only work on 68030+ computers... and unfortunately, this is a 68020. ohhhhh well -_-i'm wondering what on earth else i can possibly do with this network card in here. seems kind of usless. |
maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2002 : 15:09:32
quote:
well, i gave open transport a try... only to find that when starting the install it said that it would only work on 68030+ computers... and unfortunately, this is a 68020. ohhhhh well -_-i'm wondering what on earth else i can possibly do with this network card in here. seems kind of usless.
Damnit! That sucks, coz MacTCP sure is a byatch to configure! I'm thinking, maybe you could pick up a newer LC on eBay or something? Just a thought...those suckers seem to be everywhere.... -------------------------- "I keep my friends close, but I keep my enemies closer" - Unkown Warrior maclover5
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SiliconValleyPirate
Junior Member
United Kingdom
273 Posts |
Posted - 25 Aug 2002 : 02:14:32
I use Open TRansport an any machine running System 7.0.1 or later.BEFORE you install OT 1.1.2 I recommend you have a look in System Folder:Extensions to locate the ethernet card driver extension. Save it to another non-system folder - don't bother with the rest of the networking stuff. You can download OT 1.1.1 and the 1.1.2 update from ftp.apple.com and then just mount the images using Disk Copy (v6 works in 7.1 or later IIRC) and install it like that. Once that is done copy the extension to the "Extensions" folder and reboot (again) and see if that works. If it does woohoo!! If not come back and tell us. --
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bluepxl
Starting Member
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2002 : 19:52:22
no, what i was saying is that OT would NOT let me install it-- it said something like "you have a 68020 machine, this is only compatible with 68030 or higher"... bla bla -_-
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G4from128k
Full Member
USA
873 Posts |
Posted - 29 Aug 2002 : 03:40:53
<obvious suggestion mode>
You might want to just double-check your ethernet cables-- make sure they're seated, not crossover cables, swap them for known "good" cables, etc. Also, check your hub/router indicator lights to see if you are getting a heartbeat from your LC's ethernet connection. This might tell you that your ethernet hardware is working, but something in the LC's software is not.
</obvious suggestion mode>Hope you get your old LC online, G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist
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bluepxl
Starting Member
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2002 : 18:59:02
yup, cables are good, router hub comes on... oh well, thanks for everyone's help anyway ^_-
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