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foetoid
Full Member


USA
554 Posts
Posted - 23 Aug 2002 :  17:44:44
I just bought one on eBay for 5 bucks. Pretty soon I'll be surfing at 128kbps! No DSL in my area, and my ISP already supports ISDN modems so muwahahahahaha! Anyhow, I don't really know a whole lot about them. It looks like I have to use 2 phone lines to obtain the 128k. Any info about ISDN would be greatly appreciated!

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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader


USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 23 Aug 2002 :  18:01:51
An ISDN modem is, essentially, two standard analog modems that both dial out at the same time to hit your ISP. The ISP, assuming that it supports ISDN, sees those two dial-ups and sends them both a normal amount of bandwidth. Once those two streams get back to your ISDN modem, it combines them into one stream, which, of course, is converted into TCP/IP by your Mac.

It was the absolute cutting edge back in the early 90's when i used to surf Genie on my PowerBook 160 over a 2400 baud internal modem! You should see real-world feeds of 10-13KB/s or better! Not a lot faster than regular dial-up now a days, but much more reliable.

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mattminserlg15
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70 Posts
Posted - 24 Aug 2002 :  00:40:09
Doesn't it require a digital phone line?

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SiliconValleyPirate
Junior Member


United Kingdom
273 Posts
Posted - 24 Aug 2002 :  16:48:40
ISDN is Digital not Analog. It stands for "Industry Standard Digital Network" IIRC. It basically picks up the reciever and spews the phone number at the exchange in binary, which then connects it to the ISP in a flash. No making stupid noises down the line here! Also it's symetrical bandwidth so you get 128kbps upstream AND downstream at the same time. I have 64k ISDN and, despite being only 8kbps faster it makes a 56k modem look stupid. 128kbps ISDN conncets two lines - one 128k upstream and one 128k downstream.

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Kady Mae
Junior Member


USA
261 Posts
Posted - 25 Aug 2002 :  00:19:20
My ISP also supports ISDN ... for about $100 a month. Which is a complete freaking joke when they'll DSL me for $50.

And the phone company people will have to come to your house and futz with some wiring to make it work.

There are reasons ISDN ("it still does nothing") never caught on.

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SiliconValleyPirate
Junior Member


United Kingdom
273 Posts
Posted - 25 Aug 2002 :  01:47:53
It's much cheaper to get ISDN here - about £12 a month ($20), our phone company offered us it as they do not support DSL in my areas (we live out in the sticks) but we are within range for ISDN. It's pretty cool and super-stable (even more so that DSL at least) but some people do want to charge way too much for it.

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 25 Aug 2002 :  05:44:56
We used to have one single channel ISDN for our entire school... (150+ computers,) ick.
2 meg optic is so much better!


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MrLynn
Junior Member


USA
394 Posts
Posted - 25 Aug 2002 :  11:24:47
Just read this thread, so it may be too late, unless this guy's trash isn't picked up Fridays, but here's some ISDN equipment getting tossed in Ann Arbor, Michigan:

quote:

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:58:04 -0400
Subject: [MM] how to get rid of unwanted ISDN equipment?
From: Steve Klein <klein@pwb.com>
Message-Id: <8FA81C02-B5DF-11D6-B801-00050235CD7A@pwb.com>

We have four work-at-home employees whom we just switched from ISDN to
cable modem.

Now I have all the ISDN equipment I don't need. I can't find any charity
that wants them, and there's no market for them on ebay. I offered them on
comp.dcom.isdn, but got no takers.

So these are free to the first taker. Here's what we have:

Qty Description
--- -----------
1 Symplex DR-1 4-line ISDN router
2 Symplex RO-1 GEU adapters (ethernet only, no POTS ports)
2 Symplex RO-2 adapters (ethernet + POTS A & B)

In addition to other standard features, these things route AppleTalk.

You can get technical details from
http://www.symplex.com/

On their web site they are offering the DR-1 for $900.00, and you can have
one for free.

If they aren't claimed by this time tomorrow, they're going in the trash.

Unless I get some truly useful information that's worth saving for
posterity, I won't bother posting a SUMMARY.
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it manager
pwb marketing communications
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ann arbor, michigan 48104 usa
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+01 734.995.5002 fax


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scchicago
Full Member


USA
936 Posts
Posted - 25 Aug 2002 :  11:36:20
quote:

We used to have one single channel ISDN for our entire school... (150+ computers,) ick.
2 meg optic is so much better!


eep. you used to have one single channel ISDN?!?!?
At least they upgraded it.
My school has a T1

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 25 Aug 2002 :  14:33:14
quote:

quote:

We used to have one single channel ISDN for our entire school... (150+ computers,) ick.
2 meg optic is so much better!


eep. you used to have one single channel ISDN?!?!?
At least they upgraded it.
My school has a T1

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Umm, i don't think they did upgrade it. He just graduated.

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catsdorule
Senior Member


Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 25 Aug 2002 :  17:10:44
We have DSL here and it can get fast! 134/kb sec!

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