Thankfully, the 165c and 180c both handle SCSI Disk Mode without a hitch at all, so for this i'll connect it to the LC630, and do a complete install of OS 7.6, including all the PowerBook control panels. From there, i will shut down, connect the PowerBook to an external display, and get to work with Da Challenge - clicking around on the "dead" screen to find the PowerBook Displays control panel, which is used to activate video mirroring. I will rip off the internal display, and will install internet software, and a bunch of games. Teamed with my Apple Presentation System, i will have a nice little box which i can go around connecting to TVs, and either enjoy a game of Glider, or get online with the internal modem. When the time comes, i will be able to put the internal display back on, if i can parts. The 180c needs an interconnect board, whereas the 165c needs a new inverter board and back panel, both of which i can't find!

The specs of this beast will be:

14 MB RAM (maxed out)
80 meg internal HD
14.4 kbps generic Hayes-compatible internal modem
External Apple Presentation System, for connecting to TVs

So, whaddaya think?

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actually, just having somebody configure a prefs file for you to graft into the existing system folder might work now that i'm free-associating from the original wild idea!

dunno, there's gotta be a more elegant approach!

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Hmm yes...there IS this PB180 in my outer Mac circle....good idea there jt!

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thx! if you have access to the 180, can't you do an install for any macintosh onto the 180's HDD hooked up to the 180 in SCSIDM? then set it as the startup disk, boot up from it, configure it the way you want from the other 180 as a console hooked up to your external monitor and then boot it configured with an external monitor?

if that works, back it up onto a CD and restore it onto the 165c, might work for that one too, dunno. but definitely do the backup onto a CD or even do a SCSI transfer mode backup to create an external monitor default boot disk as your first move with the 180c when you hack something that works!

jt ™.
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thx! if you have access to the 180, can't you do an install for any macintosh onto the 180's HDD hooked up to the 180 in SCSIDM? then set it as the startup disk, boot up from it, configure it the way you want from the other 180 as a console hooked up to your external monitor and then boot it configured with an external monitor?

if that works, back it up onto a CD and restore it onto the 165c, might work for that one too, dunno. but definitely do the backup onto a CD or even do a SCSI transfer mode backup to create an external monitor default boot disk as your first move with the 180c when you hack something that works!

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Warrior maclover5
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All you need to do it graft together one working machine out of the parts from the 165C and the 180, well you're at it, why not give the more powerful and more deserving 180 the color screen from the 165c, then do the TV thing to the 165 by putting it's HD into the 180 while you confugure it's prefs to do the video mirroring.

This way, you have one PB where you needn't have the presentation system, besides have you tried to use a TV as a monitor?!?!?!? it doesn't work well at all. with my Quadra, and choice of RCA and JVC TVs from 13" to 32", you can only use it well at 512 by 384, and it takes alot of fine adjustment of the TV's settings to have it look good, and even then, the colors bleed into each other.

But that's just my experience.

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Aren't the parts for the 165C and the 180 the same????

All you need to do it graft together one working machine out of the parts from the 165C and the 180, well you're at it, why not give the more powerful and more deserving 180 the color screen from the 165c, then do the TV thing to the 165 by putting it's HD into the 180 while you confugure it's prefs to do the video mirroring.

This way, you have one PB where you needn't have the presentation system, besides have you tried to use a TV as a monitor?!?!?!? it doesn't work well at all. with my Quadra, and choice of RCA and JVC TVs from 13" to 32", you can only use it well at 512 by 384, and it takes alot of fine adjustment of the TV's settings to have it look good, and even then, the colors bleed into each other.

But that's just my experience.

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Warrior maclover5
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