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s1oth
Starting Member
USA
3 Posts |
 Posted - 17 Jul 2002 : 18:31:20
I've been trying to get NetBSD or Linux to run on it,
Although they both seem to support my hardware, I can't get them to work.It's got the 68040
but ADB display and No FPU which makes things tough. any body have any suggestions,
please send email or post them, If any one knows, it would be you guys Thanks Edited by - s1oth on 17 Jul 2002 18:45:15 |
danamania
Official 68k Muse
Australia
1193 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2002 : 19:19:32
quote:
I've been trying to get NetBSD or Linux to run on it,
Although they both seem to support my hardware, I can't get them to work.It's got the 68040
but ADB display and No FPU which makes things tough.
Unfortunately the end result is pretty much: It Won't Work. Almost any other FPU-less CPU will run fine with an OS that requires one, but with the LC040 and their lovely little bug... it's one of the ones that won't. Not usefully anyhows. You may know these techy details, but the short answer on why is that for FPU emulation to work, the CPU must be able to generate a trap when FPU instructions are called, which can then allow an OS to call other routines for handling FPU calls... practically all LC040s used in macs don't work properly in this area. There's a neat little NetBSD page with all the info about this you'd need at: http://www.macbsd.com/macbsd/LC040-and-BSD.html just about all of that applies to Linux too. Of course as was suggested to me, if you manage to get the CPU daughtercard from a 550c... it may be worth trying! dana 
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Alien
Junior Member
Netherlands
269 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2002 : 03:21:17
Or rip out the original 68LC040 and solder a 68040 in its place, like I did. Works a charm.You'll need:
- A very sharp knife
- A very fine-tipped soldering iron
- An MC68040FE33V (or MC68040FE40V if you plan to overclock while you're at it)
- A very steady hand. Then proceed as follows:
1. Open your PowerBook and take out the CPU daughtercard.
2. Using the sharp knife, remove the old CPU from the card.
3. Using the soldering iron, remove the remaining leads of the 68LC040, and clean up the solder pads.
4. Using the soldering iron, solder the new CPU in place.
5. Reinstall the daughtercard, put the PowerBook back together, and test the machine.
6. If everything works, install NetBSD. Happy computing! ,xtG
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Marchie
Chaplain
USA
911 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2002 : 09:30:38
my gods...Alien, that's insane! you must be handy with a soldering iron... I also suggest use of a good heatsink when soldering.. pulls heat from the chip, where it might damage. ~Marchie ~Chaplain Marchie
Admin of The WonderLAN
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s1oth
Starting Member
USA
3 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2002 : 16:46:06
Thanks for all the help
You guys rockI decide against the soldering idea,
I took Art Metals in college,
but have yet to master the Soldering Iron in the way Alien obviously has. I've decide to go back and install System 7.5.3
Is that the best thing to run on a 540c?
should I be running 8 or 8.6? Any other suggestion on how to get the most out of this old Laptop would be much appreciated.
 Thanks again
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danamania
Official 68k Muse
Australia
1193 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2002 : 16:58:27
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I've decide to go back and install System 7.5.3
Is that the best thing to run on a 540c?
should I be running 8 or 8.6?
As it is being a 68k, 8.1 is as high as it'll do - though there are PPC upgrades, I can't for the life of me remember if they let you go to 8.6... In any case, 7.5.3 sounds a good all-round OS, it's the one I use on my 540c :D. 7.1.1 is apparently the lowest you can use on one according to http://www.everymac.com/ - but y'd have to find a copy of it as it's not one of the apple-downloadable ones. What's the main use you'd be putting it to? dana
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s1oth
Starting Member
USA
3 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2002 : 08:48:05
I'd like to get it on a LAN with a Windows 2000 Server.I downloaded MpegDec and got MP3s to play on it, which is sweet,
but I'd like to do a little web surfing and and email on it. I've got a Twisted Pair Tranceiver so technically I'm connected, but I'm still trying to get MacTCP configured correctly. once again, thanks for all the help
Jake
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quinterro
Starting Member
USA
20 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2002 : 14:08:27
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I'd like to get it on a LAN with a Windows 2000 Server.I downloaded MpegDec and got MP3s to play on it, which is sweet,
but I'd like to do a little web surfing and and email on it. I've got a Twisted Pair Tranceiver so technically I'm connected, but I'm still trying to get MacTCP configured correctly. once again, thanks for all the help
Jake
While I have not tried this with Windows 2000 server, I have tried it with Windows 2000 Professional. For the Dial-up connection, go into the properties page for it. I think the last tab allows you to share the connection. Sharing the connection changes the IP address on the Win2k box to 192.168.0.1. On the Mac side (I'm using my 9500/200 as a reference), you would set the gateway to 192.168.0.1. Next, either use DHCP or specify an address of 192.168.0.x, where x is between 2 and 255. You may need to specify DNS addresses too. On 8.1 and below I have had to in order to get it to work.
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MrLynn
Junior Member
USA
394 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2002 : 14:53:33
quote:
I've decide to go back and install System 7.5.3
Is that the best thing to run on a 540c?
I seem to recall that from 7.5.3 you can go up to 7.6.1 with a free download from Apple. At least I think that's what we did with the Performa 5215. /Mr Lynn Curator of: SE (6.0.4), SE w. 020 accelerator (6.0.8), SE w. no HD, IIfx (7.1), IIci (bad HD); plus various PPCs in family (blue G3/350 is main Mac these days). |
oldmacman
Full Member
USA
713 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2002 : 16:56:35
7.6.1 isn't free, but I think that a disk image for it is on the 68kMLA hotline server and mirror.Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert
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candyPunk
Full Member
USA
856 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2002 : 20:34:40
7.6 is listed at gambahttp://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/syslist.html However, the link has a strikethrough. I don't know if the 7.6.1 that is listed is for only 7.6, or other earlier releases. Try that { candyPunk }
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pitabu
Starting Member
6 Posts |
Posted - 23 Aug 2002 : 07:44:03
Where can one hook up with a plain old 68040 powerbook processor?
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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER
USA
2899 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 07:23:45
<bump>*wonders if process sounds more insane than . . . :rolleyes:* *thinks: WTF! posts anyway.  * Whatcha think of this process? chucking a teensy-weensy tipped soldering iron into a drill press . . .
lengthening lever with a spring loaded arm for tight Z axis control . . .
mounting a CPU daughtercard to a board as a jig . . .
using spring mounting setup for stress relief . . .
clamping jig in a milling vise for controlling movement on X & Y axes . . .
macrofocusing VidCam on solder joint for ultra-closeup . . .
placing monitor setup for ultracloseup view behind setup on drill press . . .
placing BIG@$$ magnifying glass in front the setup for rough view . . .
soldering 3.5 bazillion legs of an SMT 040 onto CPU card. =8-} jt  ™.
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