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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2002 :  07:46:19
OK, as you may or may not know, the IIsi Video Spigot consists of a Zero-Slot adaptor which goes into the si PDS, a video card and a capture card which slot into the Zero-Slot.

Now, please tell me that the Zero-Slot is some kind of PDS -> NuBus thing, and I can use the capture card in a hypothetically much faster Quadra.

~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
Mayor of NuBus City v3.0

Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2002 :  08:35:12
scan them in for nubus city and i'll check it out. it'd need the same chipset as a nubus adapter on the Zero-Slot card except but the FPU, which would be stupid to leave off, but unnecessary.

jt .
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oldmacman
Full Member


USA
713 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2002 :  10:07:49
Nope. It just splits the 030 PDS into two slots.

Don't bother sending pics. I already sent them to the PDS card archive.

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2002 :  11:57:05
quote:

Nope. It just splits the 030 PDS into two slots.

Don't bother sending pics. I already sent them to the PDS card archive.



that's what i figured, thanks for the info. with the proper adapter, it just MIGHT work in a microquadre or a 630 then.

<minirant mode>

i still don't have all the signals mapped out, but i've got most of them charted in a spreadsheet for every last dumb@$$ 68030 PDS variation implemented by the demented design dunderheads out in the orchard.

Note on how things CAN be done:

WHILE COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER, PC manufacturers in the VESA alliance could manage to build mutually compatible 486 VLB "PDS" slots and equivalent motherboard installations. add in a dizzying variety of CPU speeds for an entire host of third party card manufacturers to fill and/or for themselves to build into their mobos in multiple slot implementations according to established rules allowing up to 3 (?) PDS devices, depending on the published electrical characteristics in an open standard.

now why do you think it was that Apple couldn't even get two slots to work the same in almost identical machines such as the SE/30 and the IIsi?

*shakes head in utter disbelief*

</minirant mode>

bleh!

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oldmacman
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USA
713 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2002 :  12:42:27
Why would you want to capture video with an SE/30 anyway?

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2002 :  13:35:15
quote:

Why would you want to capture video with an SE/30 anyway?


that's not the point, check the gamba site for the kind of project i'm talking about.

http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/se30daystar.html

that vidcap card used with a microquadra board in a hack or built into a MiniDock for a Duo 280c or 2300c might be rather interesting, eh?

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USA
1559 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2002 :  18:25:06
quote:

scan them in for nubus city and i'll check it out. it'd need the same chipset as a nubus adapter on the Zero-Slot card except but the FPU, which would be stupid to leave off, but unnecessary.

I've already been sent a scan of it as a sumission to the PDS Republic...I'll upload it in the very near future...

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USA
1559 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2002 :  18:44:53
ZeroSlot adapter

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2002 :  20:30:29
Yeah, the VideoSpigot is nice, but not really all that good on a IIsi, especially one as lowly as the one I borrowed permanently...

If you found out how to build a MicroQuadra adaptor, I'd be VERY interested!

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