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dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 03 Jul 2002 : 12:52:16 Lee and I own a buhzillion 68ks. Ok, more like 3 SEs 1 SE/30 1 Performa 400 1 Plus 1 PB520c 1 repackaged Quadra 950 1 PM7500/100 (cough-cough) All are essentially stock aside from hard disk upgrades (200 meg SCSI-2s for $20 each? Sure!) Remnants of many other fond memories gone bad: (this is only a list of the significat stuff) Quadra 605, LC and LCII power supplies, Miniscribe 10 meg from the Plus (RIP), Too many Quantum you know whats, and a few small displays from the early Mac II era. The Quadra 950 was a demonstrator graphics processing system which was a Quadra 950 mobo repackaged by my employer into a hefty steel case, as part of their grand format printing systems (nameless, starts with letter V). The (incomplete) box holds a full SCSI bus of hard disks, and has a custom 300W supply to power them up. Pictures of it are possible, but first off, lest you get any ideas, shipping this >40 pound beast from USA will make this a moot point real quickly. What kind of memory does this thing take? I may just gut the 950, put the CPU into the 520C and toss the mobo/case/supply, if the memory is reusable elsewhere. I care very little about re-using this whole thing. Here is my dilemma. It had a Radius graphics card in it which I cannot identify. But I'd really like to identify it, so I can try it elsewhere (maybe the SE/30?). I tried current eBay sales and closed items, all those which have pictures are not my card. I have posted a lengthy description of the card at http://www.videouniversity.com/wwwboard/macvideo/index.html (July 3, 2002; 7:38 Eastern US time). Anyone herein care to take a shot at identifying it? At some point, pictures are possible. It also had a DayStay PPC601 card in it... which had the notorious thermal compound dryout issue. Yanked it, regreased it, no issues there. Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh.
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 03 Jul 2002 : 13:13:19 Mmmm...that custom Q-950 case sounds absolutely dreamy! How close are you to L.A.? Anyway, FYI the 950 uses 30-pin SIMMs, and being that it can hold a whopping 16 of them, you can max out the RAM at 256MB, if you can get a hold of sixteen 16MB SIMMs (this many would sell for $120 or more on eBay). As for the Radius card, I'm not sure at all. The only Nubus card I have that uses two boards sandwiches together is my SuperMac DigitalFilm card. I was thinking that it, too, might be a video capture card, but you say it only has the one, DB-15 connector, right? It could have some kind of early 3D acceleration, hence the second board. I know there are some of those that were used on G1's and high-end Quadra's in the mid-90's. All I know for sure is that you won't be able to use it in an SE/30!! 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 I Have No Legs! Edited by - cinemafia on 03 Jul 2002 13:15:36
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 03 Jul 2002 : 13:51:30 http://www.lowendmac.com/video/thunder4gx.html if it only had one connector DB-15 (?) i don't have one. VideoVision Studio? if it has 1 or 2 daughtercards or provision for a 2nd and it has i HD-15 and 1 DB-15. dunno, i 've got the VideoVision Studio card here, circa 1993. jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 03 Jul 2002 : 13:54:57 Yeah, JT, I was thinking it might have been a Thunder GX, but they're generally 7", and I've never seen one that had two breadboards. That and they're usually labelled pretty well. 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 I Have No Legs!
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 05 Jul 2002 : 08:22:51 quote: Mmmm...that custom Q-950 case sounds absolutely dreamy! How close are you to L.A.? New Hampster. Is there a way to post Pix? quote: Anyway, FYI the 950 uses 30-pin SIMMs, EDO or FPM? SE/30 gave me chimes of death when I installed the Q950 SIMMs into it. SE/30 was fine after I restored its original SIMMs. Sure hope the Q950 SIMMS are not toast.... quote: and being that it can hold a whopping 16 of them, you can max out the RAM at 256MB, if you can get a hold of sixteen 16MB SIMMs (this many would sell for $120 or more on eBay). I have four of a kind, the mfr is IBM, but I cannot determine capacity because IBM is so (arrgh) obscure about their RAM part numbers... quote: As for the Radius card, I'm not sure at all. The only Nubus card I have that uses two boards sandwiches together is my SuperMac DigitalFilm card. I was thinking that it, too, might be a video capture card, but you say it only has the one, DB-15 connector, right? Right quote: It could have some kind of early 3D acceleration, hence the second board. I know there are some of those that were used on G1's and high-end Quadra's in the mid-90's. All I know for sure is that you won't be able to use it in an SE/30!! Well, if it happens to be one of a few certain Radius cards.... I think I saw SE/30 listed for a few cards... maybe I'm dreaming? Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh.
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 05 Jul 2002 : 08:28:57 quote: http://www.lowendmac.com/video/thunder4gx.html Hmm..... mine has 4 AT&T 3207 DSPs on it.... gulp. Using this in an SE/30 looks, ummmm, pretty slim. quote: if it only had one connector DB-15 (?) i don't have one. VideoVision Studio? if it has 1 or 2 daughtercards or provision for a 2nd and it has i HD-15 and 1 DB-15. the daughtercard has no access outside of the host Mac. quote: dunno, i 've got the VideoVision Studio card here, circa 1993. I'm still looking.... Thanks! Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 05 Jul 2002 : 08:32:21 quote: Yeah, JT, I was thinking it might have been a Thunder GX, but they're generally 7", but but but but this is a 7' card assembly... quote: and I've never seen one that had two breadboards. That and they're usually labelled pretty well. but labels can fall off after 10 years, or maybe this was custom for my company.... Thanks for the replies! Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
thelip Full Member USA 729 Posts	Posted - 05 Jul 2002 : 08:59:08 is there a rom that might have a label on it. All my video cards have a sticker with the card info and rom version. it might be behind the daughter card (?? was there one, i became a little confused) That 950 sounds SSSSWWWWEEEEETTT! I'm considering getting a ppc upgrade for one of mine. The 950 should have onboard video to test the ram out and you might find out more about the card with asp. I don't know for sure. Just my 2cents _______________________ Sgt. Thelip Heavy Weapons Specialist 950 division Liberated Macs: 12
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 05 Jul 2002 : 10:45:45 quote: The 950 should have onboard video to test the ram out and you might find out more about the card with asp. I don't know for sure. if ASP won't TattleTech will give you info on it. the only radius daughtercards that i know of which have a breakout connector to the backplane are the SCSI2 daughtercards for the Rocket33. if this card is 7" long with a single DB-15 and a daughtercard with 4 DSP's on it, it's more than likely the Thunder GX/DSP Booster Daughtercard combo and i am soooooooo jealous! btw: between the two descriptions i really couldn't get enough info on your card to ID it without a LOT of guesswork. it's very difficult to describe hardware in .txt to somebody else. you got the IC id's fine, but the length was unspecified and the connector info was unclear to me. maybe this army needs a checklist of pertinent info for submitting identity questions. we DEFINITELY need one for troubleshooting info, but that hasn't happened yet . . . . google around for the identity of the DSP's on the GX, they're probably the same as on the PhotoBooster or the DSP daughtercard for the Rocket, but you might find some related info about your cards mentioned in a review or page about one of the others. have you had it apart to examine both sides of both cards yet? if you have access to a scanner, we'd all love to see it, check out ~coxy's NuBus City page and the NuBus Mafia thread over on Applefritter for guidlines on how to scan it. jt . Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 05 Jul 2002 10:51:36
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 05 Jul 2002 : 11:28:32 quote: quote: The 950 should have onboard video to test the ram out and you might find out more about the card with asp. I don't know for sure. if ASP won't TattleTech will give you info on it. Honestly, I fear to boot it up, as it is not known to be good or bad... I'm just cautious.... but the weekend is ahead, and I can get this stuff hooked in rather quickly, so maybe I will. Anyway, I doubt any monitor I own would properly work with it (save that one real boat anchor: that Ikegami Tsushinki D/CM2060. 20" RGB!) :-( quote: the only radius daughtercards that i know of which have a breakout connector to the backplane are the SCSI2 daughtercards for the Rocket33. if this card is 7" long with a single DB-15 and a daughtercard with 4 DSP's on it, it's more than likely the Thunder GX/DSP Booster Daughtercard combo and i am soooooooo jealous! Nyaa nyaa. Oops - wait til we are certain, OK? quote: btw: between the two descriptions i really couldn't get enough info on your card to ID it without a LOT of guesswork. it's very difficult to describe hardware in .txt to somebody else. you got the IC id's fine, but the length was unspecified and the connector info was unclear to me. maybe this army needs a checklist of pertinent info for submitting identity questions. we DEFINITELY need one for troubleshooting info, but that hasn't happened yet . . . . google around for the identity of the DSP's on the GX, they're probably the same as on the PhotoBooster or the DSP daughtercard for the Rocket, but you might find some related info about your cards mentioned in a review or page about one of the others. Roger that! quote: have you had it apart to examine both sides of both cards yet? Yes, 4 devices total have labels, 2 on main board, 2 on daughter board. All labels are simply part numbers, as in "323-2115-01" and the like... no 'thunder double qx' or anything helpful. quote: if you have access to a scanner, we'd all love to see it, check out ~coxy's NuBus City page and the NuBus Mafia thread over on Applefritter for guidlines on how to scan it. Uh-oh. I just found the mayors site and..... bad news. My card matches (you may now start turning green....) the Thunder IV GX. Wow, I hit the motherlode. Now what? I gotta ping that site cuz the page which has the text says 'Radius Thunder IV GX 1360 Accelerated Nubus Video Card', but the picture is a file called 'gx1600.jpg', so is it a 1360 or a 1600? Like my SE/30 could care!! Kidding! Just kidding!! I'd never put the thunder into the SE/30. Same round heatsink.... same daughter card pattern (as much as I can determine anyway). Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 05 Jul 2002 : 11:38:03 Whoa - is the Q950 a 66MHz processor??? Spank me for thinking it was just another 40 MHz rig! Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 05 Jul 2002 : 12:20:35 quote: Whoa - is the Q950 a 66MHz processor??? Spank me for thinking it was just another 40 MHz rig! nope just another 33 MHz bus/66MHz internal clock part. the only 40/80 AFAIK was the 840AV, but you can clock your 950 to match that in all liklihood. moto was "clock doubling" before it became a marketing ploy at intel when they finally figured out how to do it. congrats on that killer graphics card, where in NH exactly was it you said . . . jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 06 Jul 2002 : 11:09:55 quote: congrats on that killer graphics card, where in NH exactly was it you said . . . Well, lets just say I'm 'south of Lake Winnipesaukee' and leave it at that. Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 06 Jul 2002 : 11:15:26 Where might I post some pix of the Q950/monster case? Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 06 Jul 2002 : 14:03:24 Ok, Lets try this: I have posted some pics at http://photos.yahoo.com/ldunbarl Look into the album titled 'soon to be gone' ('cuz it will be!) and find the Quadra 950 album. You may note that the Thunder IV GX card (and the PPC 601 upgrade) card are removed from the Q950 in those shots.... they will be included in the photo album at a later time. Edited by - dunbar on 06 Jul 2002 14:10:12 Edited by - dunbar on 06 Jul 2002 14:12:09
FireWire is fast General, 4 star USA 1559 Posts	Posted - 06 Jul 2002 : 18:57:52 Why in the heck did they position the motherboard so the ports are on the top of it?! -------------------- keeper of the website , master of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice™, and figure-head of the Peoples' PDS Republic --------------------
thelip Full Member USA 729 Posts	Posted - 06 Jul 2002 : 19:28:09 quote: Look into the album titled 'soon to be gone' ('cuz it will be!) and find the Quadra 950 album. Where's it going?!? ( i reread you post above and caught what the plan was with it. Man, that case rocks and why tear apart such an awesome mac? If you're going to throw that case away, i'll take it minus the power supply, unless it's spoken for.) That is a great looking setup. At first i wondered to myself why the traditional "back" was on top. I think that would be great as a testing rig or something that requires messing with cables often. I don't want to think what that whole system cost back in the day... _______________________ Sgt. Thelip Heavy Weapons Specialist 950 division Liberated Macs: 12 Edited by - thelip on 06 Jul 2002 19:32:05
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 05:16:34 quote: Why in the heck did they position the motherboard so the ports are on the top of it?! Not a single clue here, I'm afraid! Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 05:26:15 quote: quote: Look into the album titled 'soon to be gone' ('cuz it will be!) and find the Quadra 950 album. Where's it going?!? Make an offer - and remember shipping ~40-50 pounds from Central NH will be $$$! quote: ( i reread you post above and caught what the plan was with it. Man, that case rocks and why tear apart such an awesome mac? If you're going to throw that case away, i'll take it minus the power supply, unless it's spoken for.) I had no destination defined at that time, and am altogether reconsidering the takeapart angle, the change of heart is due to the enthusiastic responses I got here! quote: That is a great looking setup. At first i wondered to myself why the traditional "back" was on top. no clues from what I see inside the box! quote: I think that would be great as a testing rig or something that requires messing with cables often. I don't want to think what that whole system cost back in the day... Cost? This hardware was, I believe, included with a multi-$100k printer! Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 05:49:09 Ok, I spent a few hours of quality time with it.... I reconnected the boot drive and it boots as 68k, has 64 megs ram according to 'About this Macintosh' (I see 4 sticks of 30 pin simms, therefore 16 megs each.... 16 slots hints 256 meg is possible, per prior posts). Anyways, I'll post pictures of CRT display later today. I was not able to boot it with Daystar PPC601 enabled, I suspect the cause is that the Daystar software was fiddeled with somewhere between 'actually being used daily' and 'as delivered into my hands'. Probably not all there. Anyone have any experience with Daystars PowerPro 1.2 software? If so - why do the contents of the control panel not fit into the control panel window? I see that there are more options in the window, but cannot scroll the control panel window to read the text associated with the options. ResEdit is one option, but maybe Dynamic Desktop is part of the battle? I've never used either, can only postulate causes for the misfit window. Questions for someone who uses a stock (unmodified) Q950: First, this box has 2 power switches, yet only one fires it up. Were there 2 such switches on the original? If so, explain purposes, please! Second, I have an interrupt switch and a reset switch... Pressing one switch (reset switch?) does nothing at any time. Pressing the other switch is great for showing people what a sad mac looks like - it makes the sad mac (0000000f 0000000d) for you every single time (when in Workstation mode)! As the doctor used to say - "If it hurts, don't do it"! Third, does the stock Q250 allow 2 modes of operation - Workstation mode and Server mode? This box has a switch labeled as such, and the machine will not boot when Server is chosen. Fourth, when it boots, it seems to take quite a long time to get through the whole process (I own PB520C at MacOS7.5.5, SE/30 at MacOS7.1 - these are noticeably faster than the Q950). Maybe the RAM is part of it - the PB was 4 whopping megs, the SE/30 has 16 megs. Or maybe the Q950 has more hardware to setup, running too many drivers, MacOS 8.1 not ideal for it? TIA. Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh Edited by - dunbar on 08 Jul 2002 05:49:50
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 06:41:34 Posted the <blurry> screen photo. Yeah, I could have screen dumped, floppied, converted to JPEG, etc.... but the camera is much quicker to deliver the final (if blurry) product. The time on the display is due to dead CMOS battery. Photo was taken on an old 12" Mac RGB display.... That ancient monitor, though small, totally beats a few newer monitors I've tried! Now if I could only get a digital camera with better than ISO 100 equivalent film speed.....
thelip Full Member USA 729 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 07:58:17 Ok, i'll try to answer some questions... quote: First, this box has 2 power switches, yet only one fires it up. Were there 2 such switches on the original? If so, explain purposes, please! Third, does the stock Q250 allow 2 modes of operation - Workstation mode and Server mode? This box has a switch labeled as such, and the machine will not boot when Server is chosen. Well, I have 2 thoughts. First, the 950 has a key that has 3 positions. Locked off (no input of anykind from keybaord), normal, and locked on (no input from mouse or keyboard while on.) Where you said server mode probably locks it either on or off, and workstation is what i called normal. i'm REAL technical. That key can start up the mac. As far as the 2 switches on your box, that might have been from the case manufacturer and had nothing to do with the 950 specs. Technically you can start the mac from 2 sources, the keyboard and the key switch. (now was that really 2 explanations??) quote: Second, I have an interrupt switch and a reset switch... Pressing one switch (reset switch?) does nothing at any time. Pressing the other switch is great for showing people what a sad mac looks like - it makes the sad mac (0000000f 0000000d) for you every single time (when in Workstation mode)! As the doctor used to say - "If it hurts, don't do it"! At what point during using the mac does the sad mac show up? that doesn't sound good, i've never run into that, i don't think. If it was during starting up you can get the tones of death and maybe the sad mac, i can't remember. quote: Fourth, when it boots, it seems to take quite a long time to get through the whole process (I own PB520C at MacOS7.5.5, SE/30 at MacOS7.1 - these are noticeably faster than the Q950). Maybe the RAM is part of it - the PB was 4 whopping megs, the SE/30 has 16 megs. Or maybe the Q950 has more hardware to setup, running too many drivers, MacOS 8.1 not ideal for it? Yes, my takes forever. With 256 meg of ram, it seems like eternity. I think it has to do a lot with the ram and some diagnostics. I've filled the nubus slots with video cards and that seems to add some time onto the booting as well. I don't know anything about the daystar upgrade. I think you should hold onto the whole set. It could be called a collectors item. ( i would...) _______________________ Sgt. Thelip Heavy Weapons Specialist 950 division Liberated Macs: 12
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 08:55:49 Oh wow...that case is gorgeous!!! I'd love to grab it...but shipping from the East Coast to the Left would be pretty expensive for such a huggernaught... Imagine loading that sucker up with a 10/100 Nubus ethernet card, two Thunder GX 1600's for dual-21"-monitor display, 2 FWB Jackhammer cards driving two 4-drive Ultra-Wide RAIDs and a RocketShare card to even the processing power and then use it as an insane net/game server!!! 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 I Have No Legs!
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 09:17:45 quote: Oh wow...that case is gorgeous!!! I'd love to grab it...but shipping from the East Coast to the Left would be pretty expensive for such a huggernaught... Imagine loading that sucker up with a 10/100 Nubus ethernet card, two Thunder GX 1600's for dual-21"-monitor display, 2 FWB Jackhammer cards driving two 4-drive Ultra-Wide RAIDs and a RocketShare card to even the processing power and then use it as an insane net/game server!!! or a PEx board! sighs! jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 09:23:49 quote: Ok, i'll try to answer some questions... quote: First, this box has 2 power switches, yet only one fires it up. Were there 2 such switches on the original? If so, explain purposes, please! Third, does the stock Q250 allow 2 modes of operation - Workstation mode and Server mode? This box has a switch labeled as such, and the machine will not boot when Server is chosen. Well, I have 2 thoughts. First, the 950 has a key that has 3 positions. Locked off (no input of anykind from keybaord), normal, and locked on (no input from mouse or keyboard while on.) Where you said server mode probably locks it either on or off, and workstation is what i called normal. i'm REAL technical. No problem with technicalities - ove 20 years in electronics design engineering as a technician. quote: That key can start up the mac. As far as the 2 switches on your box, that might have been from the case manufacturer and had nothing to do with the 950 specs. I think my employer designed the case, but asking for documents this old would raise suspicions. quote: Technically you can start the mac from 2 sources, the keyboard and the key switch. (now was that really 2 explanations??) quote: Second, I have an interrupt switch and a reset switch... Pressing one switch (reset switch?) does nothing at any time. Pressing the other switch is great for showing people what a sad mac looks like - it makes the sad mac (0000000f 0000000d) for you every single time (when in Workstation mode)! As the doctor used to say - "If it hurts, don't do it"! At what point during using the mac does the sad mac show up? that doesn't sound good, i've never run into that, i don't think. If it was during starting up you can get the tones of death and maybe the sad mac, i can't remember. Immediately upon pressing the switch. I suspect that the rewiring job has allowed a mode combination which Apple would have excluded in their design. Heh - what a feature!! quote: Yes, my takes forever. With 256 meg of ram, it seems like eternity. I think it has to do a lot with the ram and some diagnostics. I've filled the nubus slots with video cards and that seems to add some time onto the booting as well. I don't know anything about the daystar upgrade. I think you should hold onto the whole set. It could be called a collectors item. ( i would...) Heh - I think someone else should collect it! What are you offering? I'm neither greedy nor would I separate the parts. This thing is a tank and would need $$ to ship it. Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh Edited by - dunbar on 08 Jul 2002 09:24:59
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 09:33:23 Duhhhh. Now I see why the I/O was on top: Rear of case has air flow for cooling the mac. Front of case has the drive bays. Bottom of the case is, umm the bottom, where nobody ever puts wires (by design would create a trip hazard). Ok, so now what surfaces remain..... Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 09:41:46 Wow - this is fun.... I neglected to mention this about it: Case has one 300W power supply with multispeed cooling; 9 count 'em 9 disk drive bays at 5 1/4", half height (that qty excludes the floppy bay!); system will include Daystar PPC601/100MHz PDS card; system will include Thunder IV card (identity is as yet not totally certain). Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
thelip Full Member USA 729 Posts	Posted - 08 Jul 2002 : 12:15:44 i misphrased the question about the sadmac, was it already into the system or was it booting up? unfortunately i'm broke and will be for a while. I will mention this to a friend of mine, he might like it. _______________________ Sgt. Thelip Heavy Weapons Specialist 950 division Liberated Macs: 12
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 09 Jul 2002 : 05:45:21 Well, I tried that switch while I was at the 'pre happy mac' screen (the mouse cursor/arrow just popped onto the screen).... you know, just before the 'Welcome to Macintosh' splash screen appears.... It immediately gave me a sad mac. I powered off then on, pressed the switch immediately, before I got the grey background - sad mac. I powered off then on, waited until 'Welcome to Macintosh' screen, pressed the switch - sad mac. I think that covers most modes of operation. Ayuh, ahm frum Nuh Hampshuh. Still they-uh
~Coxy Leader, Tactical Ops Unit Australia 2822 Posts	Posted - 10 Jul 2002 : 07:43:16 If you hit the interrupt switch while rebooting, you will get a Sad Mac and hear the Chimes of Doom... (ITEKT™!) ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit Mayor of NuBus City v3.0
QuadraJets Junior Member USA 344 Posts	Posted - 10 Jul 2002 : 10:13:00 I would love to have that thing! All those drive bays would make for a sweeet, stable hotline server, without all the power draw I have now (the current server is made of 4 macs stacked up, with an extra pc-based scsi case), and the ppc card would let it run a good, stable server :) dang shipping to northwest Ohio would be a lot tho... MUST HAVE MORE MACS!!! Artillery Commander/Engineer, 68kMLA Liberated: LCII , III+, IIci, Q700, 800, and 840av, P550, 410 Contraband: Beige G3/300 MT o/c 400mhz, (2) 6100's Keeper of the 68kmla Hotline mirror server: 68k.dyndns.org
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 12 Jul 2002 : 04:24:44 I estimated shipping via UPS ground (insured @ $300), from central NH to Los Angeles at about $50, according to UPS website..... is that too much for such a unique Mac? Linux is my choice. Mac was my guide. M$ is not my friend.
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 12 Jul 2002 : 04:34:27 quote: If you hit the interrupt switch while rebooting, you will get a Sad Mac and hear the Chimes of Doom... I hear no chimes 'cuz the speaker makes no sound whatsoever (extra wires in the area of the CPU, coming through a mounting hole..... maybe a hack for something else, but still indicates sloppy condition). I now get your drift..... wait until it is booted fully, then hit it. Linux is my choice. Mac was my guide. M$ is not my friend.
QuadraJets Junior Member USA 344 Posts	Posted - 12 Jul 2002 : 14:35:50 quote: I estimated shipping via UPS ground (insured @ $300), from central NH to Los Angeles at about $50, according to UPS website..... is that too much for such a unique Mac? How much to northwest Ohio (45807)? Artillery Commander/Engineer, 68kMLA Liberated: LCII , III+, IIci, Q700, 800, and 840av, P550, 410 Contraband: Beige G3/300 MT o/c 400mhz, (2) 6100's Keeper of the 68kmla Hotline mirror server: 68k.dyndns.org
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2002 : 06:42:26 Let see: from 03301 (local), 50 lbs in my packaging, 28 x 12 x 28 dimensions; one time pickup, assuming delivery to a residence, insured for $300.... www.ups.com, rates link.... about $23. BUT: I will actually take the system to a Mailboxes etc at 03301, their charges will add to the estimate. I'll estimate the sumtotal >as a guess only< that it would be roughly $45 Sorry for any confusion, when I composed the first estimate, I failed to mention the shipping method would be using Mailboxes Etc,... edits removed my initial goals of stating that I'd use Mailboxes Etc (aka MBE). Hence the first estimate to LA would increase similarly from the UPS charges, since the same effort is required by MBE whether LA or Ohio is the destination. Linux is my choice. Mac was my guide. M$ is not my friend.
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2002 : 12:39:23 Well, If my suggested price is not right, tell me what makes the deal for you (my email link is valid). I certainly do not want to haul this behemoth to the Ham Radio flea market, it will only fetch about $70 as is (e. g. no manuals, no monitor, no mouse, no keyboard, 540 meg hdd). So there you have it..... add the numbers and see how little you could own that great 'server' class case for. Linux is my choice. Mac was my guide. M$ is not my friend.
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 30 May 2003 : 09:40:13 Still available, but if it sits much longer, I'm thinking of stuffing it with 4 of these Seagate full height drives and putting to use http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_strg_ST423451W4pk.html. Mac+=4, MacSE=1, MacSE30=1, P400=1, PB520c=1, LCI=-1, LCII=-1, Q605=1, Q650=1, UberQ950=1, Performa All-in-One=TBD PM7500=SQRT(-1).
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 30 May 2003 : 09:50:34 WOW. Have fun! "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 30 May 2003 : 10:26:09 I had one of those full-height, 23GB Seagate drives in my 7500. Despite its heft, it was a pretty quick drive! 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Lord of the Mac II Series Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 http://www.cinemafia.net
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 18 Jun 2003 : 11:24:48 quote: I had one of those full-height, 23GB Seagate drives in my 7500. Despite its heft, it was a pretty quick drive! Err..... I'm lost. From the page I linked is this description: quote: PLEASE NOTE: THIS DRIVE IS A 5.25" FULL HEIGHT DRIVE! AND TAKES UP TWO 5.25" BAYS! My drives are described as being 5 1/4" wide... my 7500/100 has drive bays which are only wide enough for 3 1/2" drives. I tried placing a CDROM drive (5 1/4" wide) in the drive bay for comparison, I see no way to fit anything that wide.... there isn't 1 3/4" of plastic frame which I could remove to fit the 5 1/4" drive width. Mac+=4, MacSE=1, MacSE30=1, P400=1, PB520c=1, LCI=-1, LCII=-1, Q605=-1, Q650=1, UberQ950=1, Performa All-in-One=TBD PM7500=SQRT(-1).

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