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shaktiman
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
 Posted - 26 Jun 2002 : 06:46:58
This quote is a reply to a message I posted in the 16/32 forum over at arari.org quote:
>060 cpu
Apple did play with 060 CPUs (see
http://www.lowendmac.com/rumormill/02/0405.html
), but nothing has ever been released by them
that even mentions details, so you are entirely
on your own. Could czuba-tech make a 060 Mac card?...
probably, if the OS doesn't require strange
timings (OS 7 does, which gave Dave Small all
sorts of headaches). But do you have 150 buyers
of the card to make it worth someone's while? We
Atarians have a need for a 060 card -- few Mac
users do. Galen quote:
So is there 150 of us to make it worthwhile the 060 development for our macs? I have emailed this czuba guy on the possibility of an 060 cpu for my quadra 840av so I will wait and see. shaktiman |
shaktiman
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2002 : 06:55:15
http://www.czuba-tech.com/This is the web address which has the email of a guy who would know if it was or would be worthwhile pursuing 060 for macs. shaktiman |
Captain Z
Mobile Ops Commander
USA
637 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2002 : 07:38:58
topic.asp.TOPIC_ID=49.htmlI brought this topic up close to 9 months ago. I later found out that the 68060 won't work in a Mac, no matter what you do. ------------------
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shaktiman
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1226 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2002 : 02:17:49
Fair enough :-(shaktiman |
markymark
Junior Member
223 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2002 : 05:19:55
The 68040 has a lot in common with the 486 whereas the 68060 has a lot in common with the pentium. The 68060 is compatible with 68040 instructions so it would be a matter of hooking up the memory, cache and bus timing signals on the cpu upgrade board to be compatible with the 68040 or 68030 logic board. This isn't easy but I think it can be done on the mac and it looks like on the atari it has been done. The 68k mac lags behind other 68k platforms most of the time. The 68k mac is dead as far as Apple and software/hardware developers are concerned. The other 68k platforms seem to have more hackers and experimenters that keep the 68k machines going with new ideas. Both the atari falcon and next 68k came standard with a dsp56k chip and for mac 68k users they had to buy an audiomedia card (that was expensive) to get the same thing but that died around about 97 and if you go looking for sdk info for the Audiomedia cards you will find hardly anything. It seems to have just vanished from the face of the earth and Digidesign treat it like the Audiomedia never existed in the first place. On the 68k amiga a dsp56k board (the delfina) is still being made and has developers writing new apps for it.
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markymark
Junior Member
223 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2002 : 06:40:57
Of course you could use a PPC upgrade instead of trying to make a 68060 work but then it isn't really a 68k mac, like a power up color classic isn't a 68k mac either.
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catsdorule
Senior Member
Canada
1627 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2002 : 07:20:21
quote:
Of course you could use a PPC upgrade instead of trying to make a 68060 work but then it isn't really a 68k mac, like a power up color classic isn't a 68k mac either.
Mabye i you took a PPC Upgrade card and put the 68060 in the place??? -----
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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER
USA
2899 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2002 : 07:47:26
quote:
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Of course you could use a PPC upgrade instead of trying to make a 68060 work but then it isn't really a 68k mac, like a power up color classic isn't a 68k mac either.
Mabye i you took a PPC Upgrade card and put the 68060 in the place???
nope, you're looking at building a card for the 68040 socket with the 68060 configured to act and look like a fast 68040 to the rest of the hardware and the O.S.the Radius25 accelerator for the SE would be the earliest example of that type of card. the Radius16 accelerator for the SE also worked on a Plus installed in a killy clip right on the processor (or eq. that's guesswork on my part, but that's the general method). but you're looking at much more serious buffering and clocking issues for a 68060/68040 accelerator. that's why i think the '25 is the one to look at. jt  ™.
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C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF oops! forgot to mention that the Radius cards pulled exactly the same kind of trick by making the SE deal with the 68020 and 68881 as if they were a stock (if unusually fast & floating point math savvy) 68000.
Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 27 Jun 2002 07:53:41
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