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what is the best system to run on a 840AV?

Author	Topic
ido New Member Israel 57 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 04:41:36 i'm thinking 7.5.5 - won't 8.x be to much for it? I'm going to see it today, and maybe i'll buy it.
danamania Official 68k Muse Australia 1193 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 05:02:37 quote: i'm thinking 7.5.5 - won't 8.x be to much for it? I'm going to see it today, and maybe i'll buy it. 8.1 is the highest y'll go with the 040 - and 25-33Mhz 040s handle 8.1 just fine... depending how much ram and HD you have though, it may chew up a lot of the resources you have there :). The bonuses of going with 8.1 are getting HFS+ for rather big drives, and... ummm... someone else will think of some I'm sure :D dana
scchicago Full Member USA 936 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 05:46:15 Isn't HFS+ a PPC only thing? _________________ HotLineServer: scchicago.dynodns.net Website: http://scchicago.dynodns.net MyForumOnDelphi: http://forums.delphiforums.com/scchicago NOTE:HL AND HTTP SERVER ARE ONLY AVAILIBLE WHEN I'M ONLINE AIM:scchicago87 Yahoo!IM:scchicago
danamania Official 68k Muse Australia 1193 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 06:12:57 quote: Isn't HFS+ a PPC only thing? Only booting-from-hfs+ - a 68k would need to boot into 8.1 from a normal HFS boot drive, but from there on could read any HFS+ volumes happily :) dana
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 09:43:48 It depends on how much RAM you have. Less than 32MB, I'd stick with 7.6.1 or 7.5.5. More than 32MB of RAM and there's really no reason not to use 8.1. 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 8 I Have No Legs!
shaktiman Senior Member United Kingdom 1226 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 13:55:00 I bought my Quadra 840av recently and I too was Umming & arring over the o.s I would advise you go for 8.1 it really does seem to be the most suited match for the computer; you could also try MagicMac. Download the demo. shaktiman
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 14:03:41 If nothing eklse use 8.1 for the appearance manaager/desktop pics! 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 I Have No Legs!
candyPunk Full Member USA 856 Posts	Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 14:25:40 Newer systems generally run better and for sure have better compatibility with useful software. If RAM permits, 8.1 for sure { candyPunk } { Captain of Observation, 68k MLA } { 68k Macs liberated: 3} { My baby: Q660av }
ido New Member Israel 57 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2002 : 03:14:21 well, the system has 24MB of ram and a stock 230mb HDD. i'm gonna try and scavange another 8 MB from a 660Av that has 32MB RAM (i'll just switch the SIMMs, both machines have all of their RAM slots full), as well as adding another HDD from a 6100/66 powermac i'll get for free with the Q840AV (don't know howw big it is, probebly a stock 500MB or 1GB HDD). the Q840 now have mac OS 7.6.something and it boots really fast... i think i'm just gonna do a fresh install of that system. one more thing: is the RAM inside the Q840AV compatible with the RAM inside th Q660AV? and what about the RAM in the powermac 6100/66? and i've also noticed that the tray in the CD-ROM drive of the Q840Av doesn't come out (it seems to be the only flaw - but i've only checked it for a few minutes) can i replace it with the CD ROM from the 6100/66?
danamania Official 68k Muse Australia 1193 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2002 : 03:21:11 quote: well, the system has 24MB of ram and a stock 230mb HDD. i'm gonna try and scavange another 8 MB from a 660Av that has 32MB RAM (i'll just switch the SIMMs, both machines have all of their RAM slots full), as well as adding another HDD from a 6100/66 powermac i'll get for free with the Q840AV (don't know howw big it is, probebly a stock 500MB or 1GB HDD). the Q840 now have mac OS 7.6.something and it boots really fast... i think i'm just gonna do a fresh install of that system. one more thing: is the RAM inside the Q840AV compatible with the RAM inside th Q660AV? and what about the RAM in the powermac 6100/66? and i've also noticed that the tray in the CD-ROM drive of the Q840Av doesn't come out (it seems to be the only flaw - but i've only checked it for a few minutes) can i replace it with the CD ROM from the 6100/66? The ram should all be fine - they're all 72 pin FPM - and the bus speeds aren't so dissimilar that ram speed would be a problem. The same with the cdrom, if they're both tray-loading ones a swap should go just fine :). I'd say with 24mb ram, if the 7.6 that's on there works well for you - keep that going!. 8.1 needs around 120mb HD space too. dana
ido New Member Israel 57 Posts	Posted - 09 Jun 2002 : 07:56:18 quote: 8.1 needs around 120mb HD space too i'm still used to the ~3mb system 7.1 UD3 takes on my "classic II"... what the heck does it need 120mb for?! Sheesh, that's more then windblows 95... talk about bloatware! ;-)
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2002 : 04:46:52 The 8.1 installs i have on my LC475 and my LC630 chew up about 50 megs or so.... -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
ido New Member Israel 57 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2002 : 05:19:13 quote: The 8.1 installs i have on my LC475 and my LC630 chew up about 50 megs or so.... that's almost acceptble. how much ram does it take (right after a fresh reboot)? in that respect - the best i've got was with system 7.1 taking a little over 1MB.
Wonkothesane Full Member USA 506 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2002 : 12:03:25 quote: The 8.1 installs i have on my LC475 and my LC630 chew up about 50 megs or so.... How did you trim it down? 7.5.3 on my Quadra used to take up that much space! Wonko The Sane Engineer-in-training 3 Macs Liberated "You can't possibly be a scientist if you mind people thinking that you're a fool."- Wonko The Sane
SiliconValleyPirate Junior Member United Kingdom 273 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2002 : 15:27:36 I personally recommend 7.6.1 but I'm biased 'cause I have to run mine in 7.6.1 in order to take advantage of the DSPs on my Radius Thunder IV GX 1360. I also have a SpigotPower AV which gets more tempramental with 8.1. Although 8.1 is good on my machine, all 104MB RAM and all, I prefer 7.6.1 as it has that "liquid fast" feel. I t supports large volumes and my RAID 0 array so I'm happy -- Mark Benson FlatPackMacs http://fpm.gotdns.com 2nd Lieutenant - 68kMLA LC Quartermaster Flat Packing Macs for 68k MLA airlift excercises Macs Liberated = 14!
candyPunk Full Member USA 856 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2002 : 18:22:50 8.1 uses about 11 megs on my Q800 { candyPunk } { Captain of Observation, 68k MLA } { 68k Macs liberated: 3} { My baby: Q660av }
FireWire is fast General, 4 star USA 1559 Posts	Posted - 10 Jun 2002 : 20:17:27 8.1 uses 9.5 Mb on my Quadra 650 (which has 120 MB RAM ) -------------------- keeper of the website , master of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice�, and figure-head of the Peoples' PDS Republic --------------------
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 03 Aug 2002 : 05:57:44 quote: that's almost acceptble. how much ram does it take (right after a fresh reboot)? in that respect - the best i've got was with system 7.1 taking a little over 1MB. 8.1 generally likes to have about 12 megs of RAM to itself. It runs okeh on 20 meg systems, and is beautiful on Macs with more RAM. I got the size of the System Folder down to about 50 megs by doing a custom install and installing ONLY what i need on that particular system. -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 10 Aug 2002 : 11:13:31 on the iMac, 8.1 takes up about 14MBs, but that's with QT5, and alot of printer drivers and tons of fonts and all, I'm not sure who much it took on my performa, or on my Quadra The easiest thing to do is turn off the printer drivers and network protocols that Apple gives you. My iMac always has ImageWriter drivers on it even when I custom install... ??? you can't even use an imagewriter on an iMac without a costly adaptor
madscientist Starting Member United Kingdom 26 Posts	Posted - 21 Aug 2002 : 17:51:16 size of the s aside, does it matter what os you run to use the av ports? and am i attempting to download the Quadra840av_660av system CD.img at 103 mb from the hotline server on a 56k modem for no reason....... im irish, it is my duty to ask stupid questions. (macs liberated:3 (well, its only been 2 months....)
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 21 Aug 2002 : 17:54:45 I'm thinking of switching to 7.6.1 as the only OS on my Quadra 840AV. Lately, 8.1 has been having issues, especially with the SpigotPower AV card, even after two clean reinstalls. Grrr....I really like having desktop pictures, too. 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 I Have No Legs!
oldmacman Full Member USA 713 Posts	Posted - 21 Aug 2002 : 19:40:24 quote: on the iMac, 8.1 takes up about 14MBs You should probably be running 8.6 on the iMac. 8.1 shipped only on the very first iMacs, and its USB support is really bad. Plus, 8.6 is all PPC code, and the Platinum interface is complete. Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert OpenStep Page at http://openstep.topcities.com/ Macs Liberated: SE (2), IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180 PCs liberated from Windoze: 3

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