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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 22 May 2002 :  15:44:26
http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/ECN/Newsletters/1987.May/The_New_Macs
quote:

The ECN No Name Newsletter is no longer being published.

but the articles look fascinating! 'nixies should click the next article link a couple of times!

jt . .

scchicago
Full Member


USA
936 Posts
Posted - 22 May 2002 :  15:53:29
lol

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 22 May 2002 :  16:13:03
quote:

lol


stifle, history is never funny!

here's more in-depth info on the NEW MACS!

http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.03/03.05/MacII,SE/

http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.03/03.05/MacII/

and a couple of links for MR. MAYOR:

http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.03/03.05/MacII,SE/
http://devworld.apple.com/techpubs/mac/Memory/Memory-152.html
http://www.mactech.com/articles/develop/issue_03/824GC_V007.html
http://www.mactech.com/articles/develop/issue_01/declar_roms.html
http://www.mactech.com/articles/develop/issue_04/coprocessor.html

actually these last few looked like good articles relating directly to the NuBus adapters where Apple never intended them to gothread!

jt . .


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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 22 May 2002 :  17:10:34
Wow, I love how powerful they thought the II was! You know, I've always treated it as a lame duck, with only a 16 mhz 020, but at the time I guess that was damn fast! It's blasts from the past like this that give us perspective. Great find, jt!

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 22 May 2002 :  17:43:58
Hey! The Mac II was a REAL computer with REAL expansion slots (NuBus Rules!!) and a REAL math coprocessor. And you could tell it was a REAL computer cuz it came in a REAL rectangular beige box (with REAL rectangular feets).

When I got my first real job, I bought a Mac II with 1 MB RAM & 40 MB HD Wooohooo!!!. Later I even sprung for another whole MB of RAM!!

I even had prolonged arguments with my fellow employees about whether my Mac II could beat the company's $250,000 Vax 11/780 (which also had 1 MB RAM). What can I say, I was a young Mac bigot. Now, I'm an old Mac bigot.

g4from128k

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 22 May 2002 :  18:42:41
Oh yeah, nubus is great. It probably seemed like a gift from god at the time. See, I was 2 when the mac II came out, so I didn't get to have the kind of experience you described

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Rexzilla
Junior Member



132 Posts
Posted - 22 May 2002 :  18:45:52
I had a Mac II in the collection but I sold it. A Mac IIsi it was. I know where I can get two more for free. It had 16 meg with a 160 meg drive...a power system:)

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 23 May 2002 :  06:25:02
quote:

Oh yeah, nubus is great. It probably seemed like a gift from god at the time. See, I was 2 when the mac II came out, so I didn't get to have the kind of experience you described

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I imagine that 15 years from now we will both be grizzled members of the PPC Liberation Army. We will be defending the G5 against someone whose first computer was an Apple IRAM (Intelligent RAM) machine with 512 GB RAM with each GB of RAM containing a hypercube mesh of 16 processers operating at 62 GHz (8,000 processers with a combined power of nearly 4 million gigaflops). They will compare their 3 foot x 6 foot 300 DPI, 100 Hz refresh conformal organic LED desk/wall screen to our obsolete Cinema Displays and just laugh at us.

We will chuckle in return, pat our dual-GHz G5 pizzaboxes and fondly remember the early 2000's as the best days of computing.

*snifle, waxing nostalgic for all computers past, present, and future *

g4from128k

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 23 May 2002 :  07:35:35
quote:

quote:

Oh yeah, nubus is great. It probably seemed like a gift from god at the time. See, I was 2 when the mac II came out, so I didn't get to have the kind of experience you described

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Apple IRAM (Intelligent RAM) machine with 512 GB RAM with each GB of RAM containing a hypercube mesh of 16 processers operating at 62 GHz (8,000 processers with a combined power of nearly 4 million gigaflops). They will compare their 3 foot x 6 foot 300 DPI, 100 Hz refresh conformal organic LED desk/wall screen to our obsolete Cinema Displays and just laugh at us.


. . . . . AND THE CURRENT MORDORSOFT WORD WILL STILL BE A PIG! <ROLLEYES>

all computers wait at the same speed!

jt . .

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 23 May 2002 :  07:54:40
quote:

. . . . . AND THE CURRENT MORDORSOFT WORD WILL STILL BE A PIG! <ROLLEYES>

all computers wait at the same speed!

jt ?. .




Oof!!! I hear you!!!

I am always surprised at the light, spunky feel of OS 7.1 on 68k machines compared to OS 9 on PPC machines with umpteen times the processing power. Although I have worked on many a signal processing application that really did need every bit'o RAM and CPU omph you could throw at it, word processing is not such an application.

I guess the hardware gods giveth and the software gods taketh away!

g4from128k

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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader


USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 23 May 2002 :  10:10:17
I was 9 when the Mac II came out, so I remember it well! At home we just had a Plus with 1MB of RAM and two floppy drives (one internal, one external). But, at my dad's office he had a brand new Mac II, with a color screen! Two internal floppy drives! A 40MB internal hard drive! It was soooooo bad ass.....

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 23 May 2002 :  17:19:46
I went from a Plus to a Q660av! Man, was it ever insane! I'd never even seen a color mac before! My brother flipped out when he saw that it had CD-ROM.

quote:

I am always surprised at the light, spunky feel of OS 7.1 on 68k machines compared to OS 9 on PPC machines with umpteen times the processing power.


Totally! My quadras run the finder and appleworks WAY faster than my iMac!

I just noticed how many exclamation points I've written. Wow!!!!

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