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thelip
Full Member
USA
729 Posts |
 Posted - 21 May 2002 : 05:14:56
Which machines supported geoport modems. I have the modem, but my understanding is that the could only work on certain machines, like the 840av. I was wondering if somebody could easily remember what those machines were? thanks.PM 8500 OC g3 420mhz (Daisy)
(3) Quadra 950's
Quadra 650
Performa 476
PB 165
Classic
Newton 130 |
oldmacman
Full Member
USA
713 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2002 : 16:14:13
It's crap. Don't bother. Get a real modem that doesn't steal CPU time and make your Mac slow to a crawl.See http://www.lowendmac.com/roadapples/geoport.shtml for details. Macs Liberated:
SE (with SuperDrive), IIsi, Quadra 700, 6100, PB 5300, PowerMac 5400 PCs liberated from Windows: 3 |
thelip
Full Member
USA
729 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2002 : 20:27:05
yeah, i knew about it sucking, but i was just curious. Thanks for the info.PM 8500 OC g3 420mhz (Daisy)
(3) Quadra 950's
Quadra 650
Performa 476
PB 165
Classic
Newton 130 |
FireWire is fast
General, 4 star
USA
1559 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2002 : 08:35:40
The Quadra 660av, 840av, 630, and (surprisingly enough) 605 have GeoPorts. Although I highly reccomend just buying a normal 33.6k or 56k serial modem. You will be much happier. I promise.--------------------
keeper of the website and beholder of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice™
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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2002 : 14:41:13
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The Quadra 660av, 840av, 630, and (surprisingly enough) 605 have GeoPorts.
Not the 605. It has a port that looks like a GeoPort, but its not. Its a serial port with an extra pin for 5VDC, so that it can power a special modem, which is not a GeoPort modem. Trust me, i've tried it before, and it WILL NOT WORK. You may get it to dial, but not much else, in my experience. Btw, seeing as though it is based on the same mobo as the LC/Performa/Quadra 630, the LC/Performa 580 and 588 also have GeoPorts. -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5
68k Macintosh Liberation Army
Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER
USA
2899 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2002 : 15:02:19
quote:
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The Quadra 660av, 840av, 630, and (surprisingly enough) 605 have GeoPorts.
Not the 605. It has a port that looks like a GeoPort, but its not. Its a serial port with an extra pin for 5VDC, so that it can power a special modem, which is not a GeoPort modem. Trust me, i've tried it before, and it WILL NOT WORK. You may get it to dial, but not much else, in my experience. Btw, seeing as though it is based on the same mobo as the LC/Performa/Quadra 630, the LC/Performa 580 and 588 also have GeoPorts.
live and learn! i wondered what that extra pin was on the connector diagram i used on the mobo graphic for the BrickOven! thanks! i also never knew my 630's had the GeoPort, the macs have the worst freakin' serial ports going! RS-422 is supposed to be better than 232, apple strikes again! blech! jt  ™. .
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Alien
Junior Member
Netherlands
269 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2002 : 01:08:46
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[…]macs have the worst freakin' serial ports going! RS-422 is supposed to be better than 232, apple strikes again! blech!
What do you feel is so bad about Mac serial ports? ,xtG
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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit
Australia
2822 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2002 : 06:06:47
Me and jt (jt and I!) actually went over this a while back...I can't really remember what it came down to, except for the lack of devices able to clock the serial ports externally to get faster speeds than we had in 1987. ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
Mayor of NuBus City
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Wonkothesane
Full Member
USA
506 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2002 : 08:38:28
I used to have a 660A/V. The serial ports were very lousy and unreliable, I gave it away when it was no longer able to communicate with my Stylewriter II. I don't think there is anything wrong with regular serial ports, though.Wonko The Sane
Engineer-in-training
3 Macs Liberated
"You can't possibly be a scientist if you mind people thinking that you're a fool."- Wonko The Sane |
Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER
USA
2899 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2002 : 09:43:15
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What do you feel is so bad about Mac serial ports?
the abysmal speed limitations notwithstanding (whatr ~coxy said) the major issue for me has always been the limited number of available ports. the modem port has been serviceable, but the printer port is incomparible with so many peripherals do to appletalk related stupidity that i always say macs have 1.5 serial ports.in the head to head comparison of the PC and the Mac in popular Science (?) back in the day, one of the major things in the favor of the Mac was that it had 2 while serial was an added cost option on the PC. turns out after very little time that added cost became about $15 for a generic 1P2S1G I/O card to double that same standard config on a PC box. standardized UART based PC serial Comms were faster than the Macs. the only time it looked like apple had finally shipped a mac (Q630) with more than the original 128k's pathetic I/O config, it turned out to be a fraud and was a PR fiasco for the hardware retards in cupertino when customers discovered that the Comm Slot disabled the external modem port if you used an internal modem in it! someday i'll finally get a hurdler card on eBay! switchboxes don't work for multiple com port device config situations. IMHO, if apple had put a parallel port on macs starting with the SE they would have increased the user base to the point that the lost printer division profits would have been seen to be the overall cashflow hemmorage that they clearly were in retrospect. jt ™. .
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Marchie
Chaplain
USA
911 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 07:26:42
I always thought that Printers should be ablee to connect to your SCSI bus. SCSI is the logical Parralel replacement, since it.. .umm.. not serial!I have to get some Null-modem adapters. I'm making a Mac SE into a hard-wired root terminal to my OS X box :-) and I'm trying to make an SE/30 or Classic II into an Xfree86 client to my OS X box... connected via serial. ~marchie ~Chaplain Marchie Holder of the Compact Mac -
-Stick of Justice, with Explodeing CRT head
-Wand of Power with Shocking Flyback Transformer Tip
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thelip
Full Member
USA
729 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 07:54:36
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I have to get some Null-modem adapters. I'm making a Mac SE into a hard-wired root terminal to my OS X box :-)and I'm trying to make an SE/30 or Classic II into an Xfree86 client to my OS X box... connected via serial.
<<<shivers>>> ugh... if you get that to work, I really want to know how you did it. You know what would be sweet is to get those phone line network boxes and run network all through your house and use the compacts as terminals to your osx machine.  I've wanted to network over my phone line with phone-net adapters but a friend's dad who directed the sprint ctl lab, tested that scenario out back in the day and it performed very poorly. So going back to the compact terminals, that would be fun to get working. Keep us informed, please.
Sgt. Thelip
Heavy Weapons Specialist
950 division
Liberated Macs: 12
Creator and Keeper of
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Marchie
Chaplain
USA
911 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 08:27:48
Well, we're moving to a new house, and I've been told by my parents to run phone and network line to all the rooms.So, I'm doing it RIGHT... each room gets 2 100 Base T ports and 2 RJ11 phone ports... that are wired into a patch panel in the basement, so I can decide at any time which phone line (out of 3) each port will connect to. The Ethernet lines are connected to a switch. The practicle upshot of all this is that at any time, those extra phone ports become PhoneNET, just by wireing in the LocalTalk <-> Ethernet bridge to the phone lines and switch. the basement bathroom also gets one ethernet port. ~Marchie ~Chaplain Marchie Holder of the Compact Mac -
-Stick of Justice, with Explodeing CRT head
-Wand of Power with Shocking Flyback Transformer Tip
~~"We are all Mad here"~~ |
Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER
USA
2899 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2002 : 10:13:00
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the basement bathroom also gets one ethernet port.
ewwwww!!!!!!!!!  jt ™.
Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball
C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF |
Geoport??
68k of the Week: kastegir's PowerBook 180.