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Jeremy

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Anyway, wasn't someone writing WiFi drivers which may allow wireless cards to work on a PB500 series card cage?

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Is that interfacing with the floppy drive???

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Is that interfacing with the floppy drive???

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Hmm...now that i take a second look at it, it does look like its sitting in the floppy drive...

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In English:

Which for a beautiful Flop! Debt to it is however not Apple, but France Telecom. Start of the nineties had decided the France Telecom to structure in France one of the first radio telephone networks, the " Bi Bop ". One began the structure of this network with the installation of several thousands - fastened on walls or strassenlaternen - " Bi Bop's ". These were connected with the fixed network and took a radio radius off of in each case 200 meters. Differently than with GSM radio telephones it was to be changed not possible from a radio radius to the next. One left its radius the connection was cut off. There were several years before air port arrangements between Apple and France Telecom over exclusive radio frequencies. Bi bop 1993 meet Apple and France Telecom, in order to create type of status for the PowerBook a 180c with the designation PowerBop. To the place of the floppy disk drive comes a combination adapter, which modem, which " Bi Bop " sender and a small, retractable antenna contains. The floppy disk drive was then supplied in external version. The software made a connection to the network with " Bi Bop ". Off then one arrived at the same manner as with a standard modem in the network. Finally the France Telecom with the adjustment of the " Bi Bop " (only in Paris and Strasbourg installed was) forced to terminate also Apple their idea from the wireless network to.

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Which for a beautiful Flop! Debt to it is however not Apple, but France Telecom. Start of the nineties had decided the France Telecom to structure in France one of the first radio telephone networks, the " Bi Bop ". One began the structure of this network with the installation of several thousands - fastened on walls or strassenlaternen - " Bi Bop's ". These were connected with the fixed network and took a radio radius off of in each case 200 meters. Differently than with GSM radio telephones it was to be changed not possible from a radio radius to the next. One left its radius the connection was cut off. There were several years before air port arrangements between Apple and France Telecom over exclusive radio frequencies. Bi bop 1993 meet Apple and France Telecom, in order to create type of status for the PowerBook a 180c with the designation PowerBop. To the place of the floppy disk drive comes a combination adapter, which modem, which " Bi Bop " sender and a small, retractable antenna contains. The floppy disk drive was then supplied in external version. The software made a connection to the network with " Bi Bop ". Off then one arrived at the same manner as with a standard modem in the network. Finally the France Telecom with the adjustment of the " Bi Bop " (only in Paris and Strasbourg installed was) forced to terminate also Apple their idea from the wireless network to.

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To the place of the floppy disk drive comes a combination adapter, which modem, which " Bi Bop " sender and a small, retractable antenna contains. The floppy disk drive was then supplied in external version. The software made a connection to the network with " Bi Bop ". Off then one arrived at the same manner as with a standard modem in the network.

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Edited by - Captain Z on 27 May 2002 12:55:46

The idea was that you could call out only, not receive calles, and you had to be close enought to a "GreenPoint", the access point for the phone. I sure considered getting a Kermit phone, you could buy an optional base station to use it as a regular cordless phone at home, and cobined with a pager, you could be contacted through the pager and then call back on the Kermit.

I think the network was dismantled, but I'm not sure... I remember seeing GreenPoint stickers on telephone booths not too long ago. (All phonebooths, post offices, Shell petrol stations and Albert Heijn supermarkets were GreenPoints).

Lemme see if I can dig up some more information and maybe some pictures.

,xtG
.tsooJ

The system was called Kermit, the access points Greenpoints, and the phones themselves Greenhoppers. The network was started in 1992, and broken down in 1999, when it had been completely replaced with GSM. The same system was also in use in the UK (Rabbit), Germany (City-Ruff) and, as mentioned, France (Bi-Bop).

The handsets use DECT1, and as such are pretty good cordless phones, and are still in use and quite popular among hardcore users.

Think of it! With that specially equipped PowerBook 180, you can surf wirelessly over your phoneline if you have a Kermit basestation, and quite elegantly, too! Oh, boy. I fear I must now have one of those...

http://www.geocities.com/kermit_greenhopper/index.html. (Learn Dutch!)

,xtG
.tsooJ

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Think of it! With that specially equipped PowerBook 180, you can surf wirelessly over your phoneline if you have a Kermit basestation, and quite elegantly, too! Oh, boy. I fear I must now have one of those...

[url]http://www.geocities.com/kermit_greenhopper/index.html[/url]. (Learn Dutch!)

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gaak, NO BABELFISH SUPPORT!!!!!!!! ne're mind!

i'm watching for ways to take the 2300c/IDE and 68k/SCSI Duos wireless with the Orinoco PC Card, not really interested in actually doing it, but i find the possibility fascinating. dunno about the 68k's but the original enabler for the 230c was the same as for the 190/5300 and the original os for all of the above was 7.5.2 which comebody pointed out (couldn't find the thread) is supported by that wireless modem. dunno, i think it should work, has anybody tried that PC Card in a 190?

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i'm watching for ways to take the 2300c/IDE and 68k/SCSI Duos wireless with the Orinoco PC Card, not really interested in actually doing it, but i find the possibility fascinating. dunno about the 68k's but the original enabler for the 230c was the same as for the 190/5300 and the original os for all of the above was 7.5.2 which comebody pointed out (couldn't find the thread) is supported by that wireless modem. dunno, i think it should work, has anybody tried that PC Card in a 190?

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,xtG
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Farallon (Proxim)'s wireless card is supported on 68K Macs. That means the PowerBook 190, and the PowerBook 500 series with optional PCMCIA card cage.

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,xtG
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They sit on the PCMCIA interface.

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You are partly right. Ethernet PC Cards, like any other Macintosh Ethernet card, use the Mac's built-in networking software, of course. But the drivers are very card-specific.

,xtG
.tsooJ

Those pictures of the Duo 230 ADB port don't look TOO hard.

I think I could do that... the modem is shot anyways.

~Marchie

~Chaplain Marchie

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well well!

Those pictures of the Duo 230 ADB port don't look TOO hard.

I think I could do that... the modem is shot anyways.

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