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G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 13 May 2002 : 07:47:21 Another Saturday, another gaggle of garage sales, another 68k (SAF fine print: "Limit one Mac per weekend per customer!"). This time, I found a minimally equiped (4MB RAM, 120 MB HD) headless Performa 450 for $2. I'd never been inside a pizzabox mac before. Its got such a cute little mobo. Makes me wonder about terminology, though. Is the mobo of a pizzbox Mac the pizza? Are the chips the toppings? Is a stock-configured mobo with no added RAM or cards a "cheese pizza"?. I also picked up an old Digital (Compaq? Hewpaq?) 386 notebook computer with DOS, but its going straight to the vivisection chamber. Muhahaha!!!! g4from128k ------------ -- The Liberated: PB 190cs, Outbound 2030E, Performa 450 -- The Originals: 128k, Mac II -- The Contraband: 7585e & 8575G3 FrankenMacs, Pismo PB, G4/450 AGP Tower mit Cinema Display
SpaceBoy Full Member USA 631 Posts	Posted - 13 May 2002 : 09:48:03 Good find on the pizza-box Mac! I think you're right- if we're gonna call 'em "pizza-boxes", the analogy should be continued to the internals! Maybe the RAM simms should be the "Crazy Bread"... Also, please be gentle with that little 386- the OS may be a steaming pile of <bleep>, but that hardware has potential... throw some older version of Linux on there and let him roam free! SpaceBoy <OS Nazi, hardware friend> AppleBASIC FOREVER! As of 4/8/02: TiBook G4/500, "Difference Engine" PB 1400/133, "KayPro II" PB 180/33, "Osbourne 1" PMac 7100/G3-266, "DEC Rainbow" and "Altair 8800" Quadra 950, "HAL 9000" iMac Rev.A/333mHz, "Deep Blue" Newton 120, "PADD"
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 13 May 2002 : 10:19:28 quote: Also, please be gentle with that little 386- the OS may be a steaming pile of <bleep>, but that hardware has potential... throw some older version of Linux on there and let him roam free! SpaceBoy <OS Nazi, hardware friend> "We interrupt this forum with a special news bulletin" * Video: Spaceboy pleads leniency while an old 386 notebook makes its way down the disassembly line of death! * Court of Criminal Computing rules: Temporary stay of execution granted! [Sidebar] I'll have to look into Linux for this old thing. Its a Digital PCP11 Notebook computer, seems to be a 386, seems to have 6 MB RAM, 40 MB HD, and a monochrome nongraphical 80 column x 25 row LCD display. (I say "seems to" because fortunately, I have virtually no wintel experience). [/Sidebar] * now back to our regularly scheduled programming on 68k conqests * g4from128k ------------ -- The Liberated: PB 190cs, Outbound 2030E, Performa 450 -- The Originals: 128k, Mac II -- The Contraband: 7585e & 8575G3 FrankenMacs, Pismo PB, G4/450 AGP Tower mit Cinema Display
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 13 May 2002 : 10:34:06 quote: * now back to our regularly scheduled programming on 68k conqests * LOL! i paid thru the nose for a (black) GrID luggable that i knew (hoped) would be dead. luckily, i haven't found the power adapter spec, it's got a HUGE (full size of unit, removable!) battery compartment underneath (lotsa makeshift Duo amp/hour-age!) and i still haven't got the heart to take it apart without reassembling it! hangs head in shame! jt ™. .
~Coxy Leader, Tactical Ops Unit Australia 2822 Posts	Posted - 13 May 2002 : 18:21:36 quote: Its a Digital PCP11 Notebook computer, seems to be a 386, seems to have 6 MB RAM, 40 MB HD... As long as it's NOT a Digital PDP-11 Notebook! ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit Mayor of NuBus City
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 14 May 2002 : 00:20:55 Great work with the LCIII. One of the biggest advantages that the case offers is that it is very easy to dissassemble the entire thing, with no tools needed at all. I can put one together in about 1 or two minutes. How big is the hard drive? Mine only has a 40 megger, but i'm hoping that will change soon... At the moment my LCIII setup is: standard 512k of vram 8 megs of ram 40 meg HD 2x external AppleCD 300 System 7.1 However sometime i want to refurbish it, and make it: 768k of VRAM 20 megs of ram 250 meg HD 2x external AppleCD 300 System 7.6.1 I might even put in an LC475 mobo if i have the money. Anyway, enough of my rambling, and have fun! -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 14 May 2002 : 06:35:55 quote: As long as it's NOT a Digital PDP-11 Notebook! ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit Mayor of NuBus City Actually, I had the very long-shot hope that it was a PDP-based notebook computer. The person selling it was clueless (only new that it was not windows and when I asked if it was DOS, they said "I guess so") I learned to program on PDP-11 back in the late 70s, and used a old VAX11/750 at a former employer for many years. g4from128k ------------ -- The Liberated: PB 190cs, Outbound 2030E, Performa 450 -- The Originals: 128k, Mac II -- The Contraband: 7585e & 8575G3 FrankenMacs, Pismo PB, G4/450 AGP Tower mit Cinema Display
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 14 May 2002 : 06:43:05 quote: I might even put in an LC475 mobo if i have the money. Anyway, enough of my rambling, and have fun! -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6 Good luck finding the add-on goodies for your LC III. I have not decided what I'll do with the Performa 450 (factory stock config of 4MB RAM, 512kB VRAM, 120 MB HD). I might hack in an old floptical drive and a 3 1/2" syquest 270 MB removable (but that is a topic for the 69k hacks forum). g4from128k ------------ -- The Liberated: PB 190cs, Outbound 2030E, Performa 450 -- The Originals: 128k, Mac II -- The Contraband: 7585e & 8575G3 FrankenMacs, Pismo PB, G4/450 AGP Tower mit Cinema Display
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 14 May 2002 : 06:49:21 quote: i still haven't got the heart to take it apart without reassembling it! hangs head in shame! jt ?. . For me, once some critical number of screws are out, its like blood in the water. I even strip the metal cover plates off of chips (486 chips and UVEPROMs are interesting), open up crystal oscillators, remove the really cool rare-earth magnets from HD motors and head actuators, pull lenses out of CD-ROM drives etc. Choice, interesting tidbits line my book shelves and the denuded carcass (left over casing, printed circuit boards) goes out the door. Before anyone gets upset, no Macs have fallen prey to my screw driver. Although an dying Apple Laserwriter II SC mets its fate in frenzy of disassembly one night (ubercool laser unit inside!). [FinePrint] "No reassembly required (or possible)" [/FinePrint] g4from128k ------------ -- The Liberated: PB 190cs, Outbound 2030E, Performa 450 -- The Originals: 128k, Mac II -- The Contraband: 7585e & 8575G3 FrankenMacs, Pismo PB, G4/450 AGP Tower mit Cinema Display
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 14 May 2002 : 06:57:23 quote: For me, once some critical number of screws are out, its like blood in the water. merde! i knew ther was sometning i liked about you! jt ™. .
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 15 May 2002 : 05:41:12 quote: (but that is a topic for the 69k hacks forum). whats a "69k"? -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 15 May 2002 : 05:59:28 quote: quote: (but that is a topic for the 69k hacks forum). whats a "69k"? -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6 Oh Dear! I seem to have overstepped the bounds of civility. I geuss I was corrupted by cinemafia's Sexy Duo. Either that or it is a reference to a Motorola processor from the far future (68000, 68010, 68020, 68030, 68040, ...., 68990, 69000! ) 68k in Y3k, g4from128k ------------ -- The Liberated: PB 190cs, Outbound 2030E, Performa 450 -- The Originals: 128k, Mac II -- The Contraband: 7585e & 8575G3 FrankenMacs, Pismo PB, G4/450 AGP Tower mit Cinema Display
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 15 May 2002 : 06:05:17 quote: quote: quote: (but that is a topic for the 69k hacks forum). whats a "69k"? -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 6 Oh Dear! I seem to have overstepped the bounds of civility. I geuss I was corrupted by cinemafia's Sexy Duo. Either that or it is a reference to a Motorola processor from the far future (68000, 68010, 68020, 68030, 68040, ...., 68990, 69000! ) 68k in Y3k, HAR! dual processor optimized architecture? jt ™. .
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 15 May 2002 : 06:31:24 quote: HAR! dual processor optimized architecture? jt ?. . LOL. Plug'n'Play! g4from128k ------------ -- The Liberated: PB 190cs, Outbound 2030E, Performa 450 -- The Originals: 128k, Mac II -- The Contraband: 7585e & 8575G3 FrankenMacs, Pismo PB, G4/450 AGP Tower mit Cinema Display
~Coxy Leader, Tactical Ops Unit Australia 2822 Posts	Posted - 15 May 2002 : 18:50:42 I hope that it's pin-backwards compatible with the 68040! ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit Mayor of NuBus City
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 15 May 2002 : 19:14:28 quote: quote: HAR! dual processor optimized architecture? jt ?. . LOL. Plug'n'Play! WOW! ASSYMETRIC PROCESSING! smacks lips ROTF . . . . . jt ™. .
~Coxy Leader, Tactical Ops Unit Australia 2822 Posts	Posted - 15 May 2002 : 21:09:24 On a kind of pizzabox related note - one of my friends has stacks of SGI and Sun "pizzaboxes", they aren't as small, though. ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit Mayor of NuBus City
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 16 May 2002 : 07:13:38 quote: On a kind of pizzabox related note - one of my friends has stacks of SGI and Sun "pizzaboxes", they aren't as small, though. ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit Mayor of NuBus City Hmmm, an array of mixed pizzaboxes. I wonder if you could create a rainbow coalition of pizza-box computers -- a place were all OS's can live in harmony -- a place where computers have no fear of hackers -- a place where .... * the inspiring music is swelling, the treacle is flowing, the audience is barfing * Sorry (too much coffee this morning) g4from128k ------------ -- The Liberated: PB 190cs, Outbound 2030E, Performa 450 -- The Originals: 128k, Mac II -- The Contraband: 7585e & 8575G3 FrankenMacs, Pismo PB, G4/450 AGP Tower mit Cinema Display
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 16 May 2002 : 08:17:24 how'd this thread get dederailed back onto topic!?! jt ™. . p.s. oops! almost forgot, caffeine and john lennon! blech! i'm surprised you haven't hurled yet. treacle! LOL! good one, didn't hafta look tho! Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 16 May 2002 08:22:19
SiliconValleyPirate Junior Member United Kingdom 273 Posts	Posted - 17 May 2002 : 16:42:12 Nar nar nar, you guys have got it all wrong. Thet are Flat Pack Macs ok? Repeat after me: Flat Pack Macs Flat Pack Macs Flat Pack Macs I am feeling sleepy I will visit your website Flat Pack Macs <click> Now what are they called? -- Mark Benson Visit FlatPackMacs Online http://fpm.gotdns.com We have feets Macs Liberated = 10
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 17 May 2002 : 17:02:20 Answer: Flat Pack Macs Hmmm... now is that pack as backpack or pack as in pack animals. Either way, we'll have to create another set of demented analogies that will ..... yaaawn .. I'm getting .... * faceplants on keyboard, nose'n forehead miraculously enter http://fpm.gotdns.com * g4from128k ------------ -- The Liberated: PB 190cs, Outbound 2030E, Performa 450 -- The Originals: 128k, Mac II -- The Contraband: 7585e & 8575G3 FrankenMacs, Pismo PB, G4/450 AGP Tower mit Cinema Display
Rexzilla Junior Member 132 Posts	Posted - 17 May 2002 : 17:24:55 Well the reason the 69k processors were never released was because it required an extra "routine" in the operating system. It was found that this "routine" involved "Barry White music" for full optimization. Apple just could not afford to pay the royalities:)

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