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scchicago
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Posted - 03 May 2002 :  21:17:12
How do I open my Mac SE?
Do I need some kind of special tool?

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Stryder
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Posted - 04 May 2002 :  07:05:31
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How do I open my Mac SE?
Do I need some kind of special tool?

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It's a long t-handled torx screwdriver. Easiest and cheapest place I've found that carries everything would be Sears, believe it or not. As for more info on it, I believe there is a Service Source segment on the SE on the HL server you can download. If I'm wrong, just e-mail me and I'll send it to you.

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2899 Posts
Posted - 04 May 2002 :  11:04:26
Compact Mac Cracking 101

1) search for "terrarium" in headings of posts by marchie

2) read my warning

3) read marchie's crt safety howto

4) click altavista link: http://world.altavista.com/

5) choose "japanese to english" in the "translate from" menu.

6) copy this url into the web page box: http://www5a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mode-id/se30.html

7) click "translate" button

8) BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!

jt . .

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 04 May 2002 :  12:39:41
ooo well done jt...

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 04 May 2002 :  14:02:15
quote:

ooo well done jt...


ty, we try!

jt . .

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MrLynn
Junior Member


USA
394 Posts
Posted - 11 Jul 2002 :  06:18:27
'All Our Base' Dept.:

The translated instructions for discharging the CRT are remarkable, but only vaguely comprehensible.

What is a 'discharge driver'?

I gather if left unplugged the compact Mac CRT will discharge itself--is this right?

Not that I have any immediate need, but I've opened these things in the past to replace a drive or adjust the screen. Of course, to do the latter, you need the machine running....

/Mr Lynn

Anyone want to translate the translation?

quote:

WARNING!

The work of introducing here is something which handles high tension, it probably becomes the result some situation also
This sight is not concerned altogether. Please act in self responsibility.

Furthermore, this time with the latter-term model of the SE/30 video card " Vimege computer aided design SE/30 " of the INTERWARE
Those which it loads are designated as material, but in the SE/30 prior-term model and the SE
It is the disassembly work where it can divert.

# Because picture score chaos is many, it reads, for speed improvement picture resolution and size
Being able to meet, you drop. It is difficult to be visible a little, is, but acknowledgement.

Until conversion of the HDD, is possible memory loading and card removal and re-installation to the PDS slot, disassembly is designated as
the #1,
Are made 2 section constitution of the #2 which the CRT, the analog board and the power source section et cetera everything is
disassembled.
As for movement to the #2 there is an lowest of this page.
In order understanding to receive the basis of disassembly, to the #2 from only this page it is designed in such a way that it cannot fly.
Acknowledgement.

1. Tools

Above: Opener
Underneath: „Éà„É´„ÇØ„Ç*„Éâ„É©„ǧ„Éê„ɺ of T-15 size
Length of axis those of approximately 28cm.
(Being short, length of the 22cm is needed.)

Other things
Plus driver
If (if possible, the grip section those of insulation type you feel at rest.)

When it is, the convenient thing
Inserts the screws in subdivision the divider box which
Discharge driver

Most importance!

2. Doing before the job " it be sure discharges! "

Before depending on job, by all means it will discharge!
When it neglects this job, there is also a possibility of the worst "
electrocution ".
High tension is required for the monitor section.
By all means please do discharge job.

SE/30ers Hamada new seven HP and " the Mack て it is densely to pile up ",
details, " repair of the SE/30 " et cetera please ask the page.
Important information is stated.
# " The Mack て it is densely to pile up ", to it flies.
Furthermore (because we have not linked mutually, with " jump " and so
on please return to this page.)

Uses the discharge driver to discharge job, thing is most secure.
Is, but when it has not owned, self discharge of the CRT is utilized.

First, like the photograph it pulls out the power source cable from the
frame, does not call 1 hour from 30 minutes, totally one days, leaves from
whole day and night.
So if it does, oneself it discharges.
However, as for being secure there is no mistake in using the discharge
driver.

If the „ÅÅ, discharge job is possible, it will start disassembly.
First, like the photograph the front surface of the frame is designated as
under.
In order for the frame not to be hurt, also it is good to spread what under,
is, but the material which if possible does not cause the static electricity is
desirable, is.
I spread the seat of the electric conduction material.
(With those of the non- insulator, it accumulates the static electricity, it is
not possible to let escape.
The method which lets escape the static electricity which occurs in the
friction which is in the midst of job with using those of the electric
conduction material, was selected.
That and is not the て perfect, but.)
WARNING!

The work of introducing here is something which handles high tension, it probably becomes the result some situation also
This sight is not concerned altogether. Please act in self responsibility.

Furthermore, this time with the latter-term model of the SE/30 video card " Vimege computer aided design SE/30 " of the INTERWARE
Those which it loads are designated as material, but in the SE/30 prior-term model and the SE
It is the disassembly work where it can divert.

# Because picture score chaos is many, it reads, for speed improvement picture resolution and size
Being able to meet, you drop. It is difficult to be visible a little, is, but acknowledgement.

Until conversion of the HDD, is possible memory loading and card removal and re-installation to the PDS slot, disassembly is designated as
the #1,
Are made 2 section constitution of the #2 which the CRT, the analog board and the power source section et cetera everything is
disassembled.
As for movement to the #2 there is an lowest of this page.
In order understanding to receive the basis of disassembly, to the #2 from only this page it is designed in such a way that it cannot fly.
Acknowledgement.

1. Tools

Above: Opener
Underneath: „Éà„É´„ÇØ„Ç*„Éâ„É©„ǧ„Éê„ɺ of T-15 size
Length of axis those of approximately 28cm.
(Being short, length of the 22cm is needed.)

Other things
Plus driver
If (if possible, the grip section those of insulation type you feel at rest.)

When it is, the convenient thing
Inserts the screws in subdivision the divider box which
Discharge driver

Most importance!

2. Doing before the job " it be sure discharges! "

Before depending on job, by all means it will discharge!
When it neglects this job, there is also a possibility of the worst "
electrocution ".
High tension is required for the monitor section.
By all means please do discharge job.

SE/30ers Hamada new seven HP and " the Mack て it is densely to pile up ",
details, " repair of the SE/30 " et cetera please ask the page.
Important information is stated.
# " The Mack て it is densely to pile up ", to it flies.
Furthermore (because we have not linked mutually, with " jump " and so
on please return to this page.)

Uses the discharge driver to discharge job, thing is most secure.
Is, but when it has not owned, self discharge of the CRT is utilized.

First, like the photograph it pulls out the power source cable from the
frame, does not call 1 hour from 30 minutes, totally one days, leaves from
whole day and night.
So if it does, oneself it discharges.
However, as for being secure there is no mistake in using the discharge
driver.

If the „ÅÅ, discharge job is possible, it will start disassembly.
First, like the photograph the front surface of the frame is designated as
under.
In order for the frame not to be hurt, also it is good to spread what under,
is, but the material which if possible does not cause the static electricity is
desirable, is.
I spread the seat of the electric conduction material.
(With those of the non- insulator, it accumulates the static electricity, it is
not possible to let escape.
The method which lets escape the static electricity which occurs in the
friction which is in the midst of job with using those of the electric
conduction material, was selected.
That and is not the て perfect, but.)

Also utilization of the wristband and the like for static electricity
prevention is thought, but please pay attention to installation to the place
where the static electricity is let escape.
When calls the static electricity conversely and is packed it is. Please note.
Accurately, you connect to the chassis and the power source section et
cetera.
(The power source section is grounded to the chassis.)
After I with the clothes which are difficult to cause the static electricity
before the job, grasping the aqueduct tube which is opposite to the earth,
working, it increases.
Being also to be good, to wash the hand, it does, but after washing, when
the hand with the towel is wiped, because the static electricity occurs
there, note.


Curator of: SE (6.0.4), SE w. 020 accelerator (6.0.8), SE w. no HD, IIfx (7.1), IIci (bad HD); plus various PPCs in family (blue G3/350 is main Mac these days).

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 11 Jul 2002 :  07:32:14
NOPE!

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 12 Jul 2002 :  07:08:54
Have a look at the gosh-darn website!

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asan
Starting Member



1 Posts
Posted - 01 Aug 2002 :  23:30:03
hit with hammer. Repeat. ;)

Actually, the SE I have opened, you had to do one or two screes inside the handle, and then some more on bottom. but they were regular phillips, didnt need a special screwdriver. But I have anither that I beleive does. Weird.

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dunbar
New Member


USA
87 Posts
Posted - 16 Jul 2003 :  11:26:23
quote:

hit with hammer. Repeat. ;)

Actually, the SE I have opened, you had to do one or two screes inside the handle, and then some more on bottom. but they were regular phillips, didnt need a special screwdriver. But I have anither that I beleive does. Weird.



I've never used a real 'cracker' tool like the squeeze thingy which was part of the often advertsied semi-official tool set. I just pulled the 4 torx screws (if you had philips screws, someone did you a favor), and laid the compact on a bed, placing the CRT face onto the bed (never put CRT face onto hard surface - 'much is the band big when the done is not properly'). Give the case a rapid squeeze from the left and right side and at the same time pull up sharply about 2 inches. Repeat as necessary. All of my attempts at compacts have succeeded with this method, but some compacts needed a dozen applications of the method. YMMV, and do not use a hammer!

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KatMac
Starting Member


USA
18 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  21:42:31
For all except the Classic series, first check the lower left side near the rear. If the interrupt/reset switch is installed it must be removed. Then loosen 4 torx screws. The Plus and earlier have 5 (one near the battery). Usually the back will come off by placing the Mac face down and slapping the sides as was described by Dunbar. The Classic models seem to have a tighter fit.

There is high voltage inside! Be most careful with the Plus and earlier models, or any Compact with the power on. From the SE on there is a circuit that discharges the high voltage when the Mac is off.

On re-assembly, remember that the dark torx screws go in the bottom (metal thread) and the silver ones go in the handle (plastic thread). Mixing them up or using ordinary phillips screws may eventually damage your threads.

Once I found a Classic II where someone had unsuccessfully tried to drill out the handle screws, stripping them beyond hope without opening the Mac. Since I wanted the logic board and other parts, I cut that case off with a saw!

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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms


USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 :  12:51:36
I'm sorry... come again...

the screen in my SE fdhd would have already been discharged???

DRAT!!!!

well I happen to have my 2 T-15 drivers in case I ever get another compact...

and I still have a discharge tool just in case

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 :  16:13:16
quote:

I'm sorry... come again...

the screen in my SE fdhd would have already been discharged???

DRAT!!!!


Whats so bad about that? Now you don't have to do the scary stuff!

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tomlee59
Starting Member


USA
46 Posts
Posted - 23 Jul 2003 :  17:38:05
There's way too much superstition about the crt in a compact mac, and well-meaning advice that actually advocates risky maneuvers. It is a BAD idea to discharge the crt unless you are going to be working on the high voltage section. You actually increase the likelihood of receiving a shock by doing so, and you can easily fry your logic board. Unless you need to disconnect the crt from the flyback, there is no need to discharge the crt, so don't do it.

Many online sites repeat bad advice, and also even foolishly tell you to use some special discharge tool (like a screwdriver and a resistor). Again, these folks, while meaning well, are clueless about HV. An ordinary resistor will arc over (temporarily short out) with a high voltage, making it do nothing. A high voltage resistor is looooong to distribute the voltage over a large enough distance to avoid breakdown.

For details, see http://www.applefritter.com/thefritter/13/drwebster.html

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 23 Jul 2003 :  19:50:32
tomlee: I know what you mean...every time i've opened up one of my compacts, either to do a drive swap, or something involving the logic board, i never do it. Haven't been given a shock once, either.

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Mackie
Starting Member


Italy
8 Posts
Posted - 12 Aug 2003 :  10:42:46
Here is how I opened my 128K:

1., take an LN wrench
2., remove all screws from back of Mac
3., Use a plier to hold the LN wrench and remove the handle screws.
4., grab the sides of the Mac and gently yank
5. Volia
6. IGNORE THE DAMN WARNINGS ABOUT THE CRT! A GROWN MAN LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH SENSE NOT TO TOUCH IT, AND EVEN IF YOU DID, IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY YOU'LL DIE!
7. Enjoy, and happy hacking!

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