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zsarillian
Starting Member
23 Posts |
 Posted - 22 Apr 2002 : 22:39:33
Hi All!
I'm a new recruit to these forums, and just wanted to say hello, but I had a question, so I thought I'd "correct" (in the words of one Mr. Grady) two birds with one stone.. 
What is the reason for the hostility against the Performa 600/ IIvi? I've never used one, but was just curious...- Z 68k's liberated: 3
P475, Q605, Q700
Looking to welcome a Q840A/V  Edited by - maclover5 on 22 Apr 2002 23:18:53 |
SpaceBoy
Full Member
USA
631 Posts |
Posted - 22 Apr 2002 : 22:54:24
Hmmmm... now that you mention it, I'm clueless as well!
Anyway, welcome! This is a fantastic place to hang out and pester each other, so have fun!
SpaceBoy
 AppleBASIC FOREVER!
As of 4/8/02:
TiBook G4/500, "Difference Engine"
PB 1400/133, "KayPro II"
PB 180/33, "Osbourne 1"
PMac 7100/G3-266, "DEC Rainbow" and "Altair 8800"
Quadra 950, "HAL 9000"
iMac Rev.A/333mHz, "Deep Blue"
Newton 120, "PADD" |
~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit
Australia
2822 Posts |
Posted - 22 Apr 2002 : 23:09:44
They were generally cheap and crippled machines , even for the time, that's all.~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
00014 Macs liberated |
SpaceBoy
Full Member
USA
631 Posts |
Posted - 22 Apr 2002 : 23:17:13
Ya know, now that you mention it, an old girlfriend of mine had a Performa 636 that died without any real reason. The mobo just gave up and died. The PRAM battery was fine, the drives and power supply were fine, but the dang thing just up and stopped working one day.
And then her dad's 636 did the same thing a few weeks later!
Should'a thought of that before my last posting!
SpaceBoyAppleBASIC FOREVER!
As of 4/8/02:
TiBook G4/500, "Difference Engine"
PB 1400/133, "KayPro II"
PB 180/33, "Osbourne 1"
PMac 7100/G3-266, "DEC Rainbow" and "Altair 8800"
Quadra 950, "HAL 9000"
iMac Rev.A/333mHz, "Deep Blue"
Newton 120, "PADD" |
maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 22 Apr 2002 : 23:20:37
moved to Lounge. This topic really doesn't have much to do with LC/Performa series machines, but more a question about the 68kMLA.-------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5
68k Macintosh Liberation Army
Number of 68ks Liberated: 6!!! QFW68KPB Project SUCCESS!!!!! |
~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit
Australia
2822 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2002 : 01:57:26
Fair enough.  ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
00014 Macs liberated |
Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER
USA
2899 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2002 : 03:23:07
quote:
Hi All!
I'm a new recruit to these forums, and just wanted to say hello, but I had a question, so I thought I'd "correct" (in the words of one Mr. Grady) two birds with one stone..
What is the reason for the hostility against the Performa 600/ IIvi? I've never used one, but was just curious...
Welcome aboard!Thanks for pointing the existence of the IIvi out to me. I checked it out on LEM:
http://www.lowendmac.com/ii/guide.html
and was astonished that there was a slower versionof the IIvx:
http://www.lowendmac.com/ii/iivx.shtml
they didn't dignify that POS with road apple status!
http://www.lowendmac.com/ii/iivi.shtml Apple really had no shame at all! That was a patheticexcuse for a product! BLEH! jt  ™. .
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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2002 : 03:44:50
quote:
quote:
Hi All!
I'm a new recruit to these forums, and just wanted to say hello, but I had a question, so I thought I'd "correct" (in the words of one Mr. Grady) two birds with one stone..
What is the reason for the hostility against the Performa 600/ IIvi? I've never used one, but was just curious...
Welcome aboard!Thanks for pointing the existence of the IIvi out to me. I checked it out on LEM:
http://www.lowendmac.com/ii/guide.html
and was astonished that there was a slower versionof the IIvx:
http://www.lowendmac.com/ii/iivx.shtml
they didn't dignify that POS with road apple status!
http://www.lowendmac.com/ii/iivi.shtml Apple really had no shame at all! That was a patheticexcuse for a product! BLEH! jt ™. .
hey i forgot about the IIvi!!!! Technically though, it didn't run any slower than the IIvx/Performa 600, as the IIvx's 32 Mhz '030 was crippled with a 16 Mhz bus speed, which slowed it down to the speed of the IIvi. So really, there was no difference at all between them. My reccommendation? Either stick with using it as a wordprocessor/Glider player/CD player, or try and find a mobo from a dead Quadra/Centris 650 or 7100 (G3!!!!) -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5
68k Macintosh Liberation Army
Number of 68ks Liberated: 6!!! QFW68KPB Project SUCCESS!!!!! |
Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER
USA
2899 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2002 : 05:17:42
quote:
hey i forgot about the IIvi!!!! Technically though, it didn't run any slower than the IIvx/Performa 600, as the IIvx's 32 Mhz '030 was crippled with a 16 Mhz bus speed, which slowed it down to the speed of the IIvi. So really, there was no difference at all between them.
ROTFLMAO!
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Overview The Mac IIvi was a slower version of the IIvx, running a 16 MHz 68030 on a 16 MHz bus. The IIvi was never sold in the United States. Unlike the IIvx, the IIvi cannot accept a level 2 (L2) cache, although it can accept an accelerator. In terms of performance, on some bnechmarks it held its own against the crippled IIvx.
removing an L2 cache slot is just plain vicious! were the empty pads right there on the same freakin' mobo? BLEH!and holding your own on somebnechmarksagainst the IIvx is tantamount to saying it was marginally faster than an SE! jt ™. . p.s. i'm amused easily when i'm tired! LOL bnechmarks! an "L" would be a slightly more approptiate typo when rating road apples! Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 23 Apr 2002 05:24:03 |
FireWire is fast
General, 4 star
USA
1559 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2002 : 06:27:09
quote:
Ya know, now that you mention it, an old girlfriend of mine had a Performa 636 that died without any real reason. The mobo just gave up and died. The PRAM battery was fine, the drives and power supply were fine, but the dang thing just up and stopped working one day.
And then her dad's 636 did the same thing a few weeks later!
Should'a thought of that before my last posting!
SpaceBoy
No, we're cool with the 630 series, but the plain 600 is poo!
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keeper of the website and beholder of the Quadra/Centris Stick of Justice™
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raWr
Junior Member
Tuvalu
491 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2002 : 09:08:28
Welcome.I hope you have brought your wits with you, for sanity is in short supply here.  -raWr Fleet Covert Ops
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TiMacLover
Senior Member
USA
1282 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2002 : 02:08:01
It's cool, I am the only one who defends my Performa 6300.Looks around causley waving TV antenna's of death Jeremy "I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd Covert Ops
68k Hacks General
Macs Liberated:17
ENTER THROUGH THE GATES |
maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2002 : 03:44:30
quote:
It's cool, I am the only one who defends my Performa 6300.Looks around causley waving TV antenna's of death Jeremy "I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd Covert Ops
68k Hacks General
Macs Liberated:17
ENTER THROUGH THE GATES
Hehe i don't mind the 6300. I like to think of them as a machine halfway between the PowerMacs and the 68ks. It has a PPC processor, but it has a lot in common with the LC630. Not only does it use the same case, but it also uses an identical (exactly the same) motherboard architecture. This is why a Performa x200 or x300 does not perform as fast as a PM7200 or something running at the same speed. Overall though, if you want a portable TV that can surf the internet and get your email, look no further than a Performa 5x00! -------------------------- Pizzabox LCs RULE!!!!!!! Warrior maclover5
68k Macintosh Liberation Army
Number of 68ks Liberated: 6!!! QFW68KPB Project SUCCESS!!!!! |
Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER
USA
2899 Posts |
Posted - 24 Apr 2002 : 04:43:54
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It's cool, I am the only one who defends my Performa 6300.Looks around causley waving TV antenna's of death
i've mentioned the 6290 that i swapped out for the 630 in my kid's desk, it can run a few more programs than the 68k rev could, but it's mainly a ClarisHomeWork/Entertainment center. it was a freebie, but for a supposed road apple, it ROCKS!jt ™. . p.s. as on aside, on appropriate uses for CPU's, the K-6 box (the little bugger swiped it right out from under my flight sim joystick!  ) runs America Offline's Crapware . . . . ONLINE!!!!!!. :bugeyes: it's probably more efficient running that crud under '98 than the same Mac rev. on my two CPU generations newer G4/466 for dialup. i don't remember it EVER bombing. when AOL brought my new 466 to its knees on a regular basis . . . i ordered DSL! Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 24 Apr 2002 04:47:29 |
~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit
Australia
2822 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2002 : 18:16:40
Low end PPCs are good for those programs that should be written in M68k code, but aren't... ~Coxy - Leader, Tactical Operations Unit
00014 Macs liberated |
scchicago
Full Member
USA
936 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2002 : 18:43:17
Come to think of it, I just showed up here.
I don't really remember saying anything about myself...
I just said what macs that I had liberated.
I never read the FAQ until recently.
(oops)
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zsarillian
Starting Member
23 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2002 : 19:06:15
Hey! I found the topic again! Sorry I was dead there for a while. Thanks for all the replies. So, what you're telling me by the sound of it (if you're one for standardized testing analogies):
Performa 600/IIvi:68k::6100:PPC?
The 6100 is probably the lousiest Mac I ever used. It made me want my 475 back! Of course, I'm at home now all snuggled up with my Quadra, so no more nightmares "I never go into the Office on Sundays... baaaaad Juju" 68k's liberated: 3
Looking for an 840A/V |
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68k of the Week: kastegir's PowerBook 180.