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captainvideo
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Posted - 18 Nov 2001 :  23:01:29
As you likely know, oldMacs have many uses... a few neat and cool things you can do:


1. Audio recoder with indexing

2. Put a Windows/DOS emualator on them, for those times you need Windows. Or make them an Apple II emulator, or Linux system. Amiga emulators should also run on them

3. MP3 storage

4. Fax/Phone answering machine. You can also use it to Fax a list of your resumes for business ads.

5. Network a couple and play games

6. You can turn them into dedicated home controllers or home security systems fairly easily. With better control and monitoring than more expensive systems. (or just leave the talking moose running, people will think a person is home )

7. Put a big hard drive in them and use them for back up (nice, in that you can always check or alter your back up files).

8. There is likely an electronic hobbyist you know/teenager who would love such a computer for a number of computer projects. Check your local college, tech school.

9. With a shortware set, you can turn them into a radio teletype news reader. Or use it as an audio recoder for radio shows. Or view weather satellite signals that have been downlinked to shortware frequencies.

10. A lot of old programs allow you to turn such computers into anything from sound analysers/sound processors to weather stations ( think they may be one out there to turn a computer into an automoble test device. Check around.


A few more

Home Automation Server (www.x10.com)
Digital Video/ Audio Editing System (A/V)(Premiere/Avid, Sound Edit 16)
Email, Web, Word Processing Machine
"CD Burning Station" via ethernet (SCSI Burner)
Super Nintendo Game Console (SNE9x and A/V Card)
Digitally Record TV programs (A/V Card)
An addition to your stereo system, MP3 Player via Audio out
BeOS (older version) should run
Linux Should run
Amiga OS should run
SETI, other distributed processing


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1559 Posts
Posted - 19 Nov 2001 :  10:20:24
quote:

An addition to your stereo system, MP3 Player via Audio out
BeOS (older version) should run
Amiga OS should run
SETI, other distributed processing


No. 680x0 series macs cannot play mp3s. period.

Be OS (even the first release) requires a PCI bus (and only some PCI macs are compatible)

Amiga OS will not run. It requires an Amiga ROM

Not sure about SETI...although if it did run on a 68k it would take like 15 years to finish one work unit.

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captainvideo
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Posted - 19 Nov 2001 :  15:18:09
Thanks, that is correct. 68 k work good for MP3 *storage*. I think they would be all right for SETI, you just have to leave them run for a few days.

There was also alot of software/experiementers programs made for the 68k Macs. You could use them for everything from heart monitors to home security systems.

They're also fine for most programming languages: BASIC, PASCAL, etc, if you know them, you can make the computer do a number of tasks.

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amanda00
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71 Posts
Posted - 19 Nov 2001 :  19:27:14
or you could eat your old macs for lunch!!!!!

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spirit without
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37 Posts
Posted - 19 Nov 2001 :  22:26:52
from what i remember corectly, my performa 5200 (a PPC that acted like a 68k....) took 210 hours to complete one SETI unit....

but i do like the x10 idea.
and i did buy my LC mainly for gaming reasons....

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2822 Posts
Posted - 20 Nov 2001 :  04:47:20
Nice sig! ^

Anyway, one of the pages for the site I'm gonna compile is "Uses for old macs. (Unless someone wants to do it first?)

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captainvideo
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Posted - 20 Nov 2001 :  22:30:45
Coxy - YES, I think it would be a good idea to list uses for old Macs, along with places to get any required the parts/software/ect. (like www.x10.com)

If anyone can get ahold of an old Mac magazines, electronics magazines, etc, there should be many ideas (by the way, I remember Popular Electronics had an article on how to convert a Mac SE/Classic for use with a regular sized monitor).

A few more ideas:

1. Retirement homes can use them - the Mac OS is easy to learn, and 68K Macs work fine for writing letters or sending email.

2. Just as a second computer for the kids, or for another room where you might use the computer to check email, etc.

3. You can use them to store periodic images from a web camera. You could use them to watch an area for security, look for UFOs, or whatever.

4. This is kinda funny, but it works, I have seen people who don't have laptops take their Mac Classic/SE to the library with them for taking notes. You could easily take one on car trips to check email, write papers, ect. Of course a 68k laptop is good for this also, when you don't want to risk losing your new Titanium one.

5. Set up the MacinTalk to repeat phrases to train a parakeet :>)

6. Use it as a sound recorder, for meetings, phone calls, ect. The existing file system would allow easy indexing of sounds - sure beats looking though a cassette tape for the information.

7. If you have an extra phone line, you can use them for uploading/downloading big files, while you use your other computer to surf the web or whatever.

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sosumi
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USA
129 Posts
Posted - 20 Nov 2001 :  22:55:23
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5. Set up the MacinTalk to repeat phrases to train a parakeet :>)

that's the most inventive one yet!

about the retirement home thought, let's not forget At Ease with it's big buttons is perfect for older folks with failing vision and/or little computer knowledge.

great ideas!

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candyPunk
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Posted - 21 Nov 2001 :  18:15:55
quote:


Anyway, one of the pages for the site I'm gonna compile is "Uses for old macs. (Unless someone wants to do it first?)

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Isn't that kind of the most important part of the site? I mean, we're not going to recruit anyone if no one thinks our cause is worthwhile. And we all need cool ideas, don't we?

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captainvideo
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Posted - 22 Nov 2001 :  20:04:34
Yes, I think a list of what old Macs can be used for is primary to promoting them. Many people just don't know how much they can do, or can't think ideas.

I will break the list into catagories:

o Home/business uses

o For the electronics/sofware experimenter

o Comunity Service

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Jasoco
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Posted - 23 Nov 2001 :  21:26:14
quote:

Nice sig! ^

Anyway, one of the pages for the site I'm gonna compile is "Uses for old macs. (Unless someone wants to do it first?)

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I'd do it just to have content for my Web Site, but I'm lazy.. so someone else will have to come up with the uses. ;)

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Flash
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637 Posts
Posted - 24 Nov 2001 :  10:14:47
I don't think that SETI is supported on 68k Macs anymore, which is a pity 'cause a SETI farm would be interesting to watch

For creating custom GUI interfaces for control systems, and controlling devices via the modem and printer (serial) ports, take a look at TRAX. http://www.dataton.com/

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captainvideo
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Posted - 24 Nov 2001 :  12:56:14
I think the biggest problem is convincing people they could use these old Macs. I have an idea, maybe I could get a few of you to help with this? In the days of the Apple II and first Macs there were many specialized magazines and programs that came up with all kinds interesting uses for those computers (I remember an article about how to use one of the later Radio Shack computers to decode weather satellite pictures using a shortwave).

I am checking the web for interesting old Mac programs. If anyone can help, that would be cool. And if anyone has a good library nearby, how about looking through Mac magazines of the late 80s. I know there were alot of things Anyone have any contacts with MacAddict? Do they go back to the late 80s?

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TiMacLover
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1282 Posts
Posted - 26 Nov 2001 :  22:03:24
Run Linux
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captainvideo
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Posted - 04 Dec 2001 :  22:27:57

Here is a neat idea, with a comput of hours of work, you could have a home controller, monitor, or whatever for the cost of wiring, and a few switches.

Learn a little BASIC (doesn't take long, and BASIC programs for the MAC can be found easily. Then get an old keyboard, take it apart, and wire switches across the keys - now the computer can tie each switch into a character that BASIC can ideentify. Then with a little wiring you can monitor your house (remember each key on your keyboard can become an individual on/off switch). Everything from how long the furnance/AC was running, to how many times the doors were opened (keep an eye on your kids) can be monitored.

I never though of using the keyboard as the interface device. The only draw back it to access the computer, your have to switch keyboards - but once your get it going, you shouldn't have to do anything else.

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Marchie
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USA
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Posted - 08 Dec 2001 :  19:44:45
I'd LOVE to use a 68k Mac for x10 purposes...

BUT, no 68k Mac I know of can recognize speech, and my reqquirement is that I can control all the lights and devices with voice commands and AppleScript.

that Keyboard modification idea tho... how would you wire SWITCHES to it? if you flipped it on, you'd send LOTS of commands quickly, because of keyrepeat. Maybe I missed something.

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sosumi
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129 Posts
Posted - 08 Dec 2001 :  23:12:48
on the keyboard control panel, setting "delay until repeat" to off will disable repeating keys.

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~Coxy
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Australia
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Posted - 09 Dec 2001 :  06:41:32
Or wire momentary switches.

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Posted - 09 Dec 2001 :  08:06:18
Keyboards are switches already! That's all they are. Momentary switches that pass current only when depressed. Caps Lock is a switch with a locking holder on it to keep it on...

They are just that simple...

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Marchie
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Posted - 11 Dec 2001 :  08:06:43
I KNOW Keybvaords are switches already... But I'm sure whoever made the post about them (I'm too lazy to scroll down and see) meant putting little rockers or depression locks on them.

The Shift, Option, Command, and Control keys all work a little different from the others... if you look at the wireing, you see that they are wired to a differet part of the keyboards CPU than the rest of the keys are.

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TiMacLover
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Posted - 13 Dec 2001 :  16:52:06
I got the best idea! Buy a JoyPort ADB controller connector so you can use like N64, Playstation, Atari, Sega, and i think SNES games. Load like a Performa 630 with all these roms and have a multigame station. You can play Atari, Sega (iThink) and maybe if CVGS is coded in 68k, Playstation games. I think it rocks there is a ADB and USB version of the JoYPort. And the norms too like a server pizza box, Bolo network and all that good stuff.

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Tallgeese
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Posted - 13 Dec 2001 :  18:04:20

Wow... That is a good idea. I think I'll try it.

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Posted - 13 Dec 2001 :  19:42:25
ummm playstation emulator? i don't think so. As I do recall, PS has a 90 MHz pentium-esque processor. The video is probably a <understatement>bit</understatement> more advanced than the graphics capibilities of a 630...

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Posted - 14 Dec 2001 :  05:23:25
No way it'll be able to emulate a N64...

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benightedbastard
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62 Posts
Posted - 14 Dec 2001 :  06:45:18
a 68k wouldn't even be able to run 16 bit consoles properly.
It'd even struggle with the 8 bit crew.

What to do with old macs? Acquire them.


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Tallgeese
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Posted - 14 Dec 2001 :  10:35:32

i understand that a PS would be unrealistic, but even 8 bit systems would have problems? Oh well, I'll make my game station somehow...

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Posted - 14 Dec 2001 :  15:47:48
I'm pretty sure they'd have trouble. None of the emulators out there are quite optimised enough for smooth running.
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Tallgeese
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Posted - 14 Dec 2001 :  19:35:08

crappity. looks like my bank of 68ks will have to share space with a coupla PPCs

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Brandon
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Posted - 25 Dec 2001 :  11:05:04
quote:

...

4. This is kinda funny, but it works, I have seen people who don't have laptops take their Mac Classic/SE to the library with them for taking notes...




I use my 512K as a portable - just to take it somewhere quiet and type things up.

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Posted - 25 Dec 2001 :  21:01:42
quote:

I use my 512K as a portable - just to take it somewhere quiet and type things up.

That quiet place won't be quiet anymore with the klinking and clacking of that old-skool keyboard. Those things are so loud!!!

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Brandon
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Posted - 25 Dec 2001 :  22:24:02
Yep. It's made the same way an Apple ][ keyboard is, and definately from the same materials so sound resonates the same.

I have no idea why I can type well on the 512k. Maybe it's because I started typing reports up on one way back when. I think it's because there are no distractions when I'd go type on it.

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