I've been reading threads on this board about XPostFacto and reading the program's FAQs since I want to try to put 10.2 on my Kanga. However, I am unclear on whether I can just install OSX alongside OS9. Is it possible to have both system folders on the same drive and just switch between them as needed, or will I have to erase the hard drive and partition it?
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XPostFacto
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Yes, you can. That is Apple's preferred method of installing OS X, and the only reasonable way to do it on a PowerBook. The "Startup Disk" Preference Pane in OS X, and the same-named Control Panel in OS 9 will let you pick the individual OS, even if they are on the same partition.
The sweet spot for OS X on the Kanga is 10.2.6, as the video kext works at thousands - you can go to 10.2.8 but save the kext, and I believe the same for 10.3.
Also keep in mind OS X needs to be installed on the first partition of the HD, which has to be below 8GB in size. To keep it clean, partition the HD in two - the first 8GB for OS X, and the latter for OS 9.1 - files etc won't get messed up then.
Hoping to do the same with my Kanga soon
JB
Also keep in mind OS X needs to be installed on the first partition of the HD, which has to be below 8GB in size. To keep it clean, partition the HD in two - the first 8GB for OS X, and the latter for OS 9.1 - files etc won't get messed up then.
Hoping to do the same with my Kanga soon
JB
And be prepared for a glorious text show.
If i remember correctly the last time i installed XPostFactoid it had to be done from the internal CD drive ( could not use external computer or external CD drives ) and the OS X must be on CD.
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Be prepared to know what the force restart magic keys just in case the installation creates a KernalPanic.
Also be aware that the computer running OS X in what i refer to as emulation mode is sloooooow and sometimes just sllllllllllllooooooooow. Although it helps if you have MAXED the RAM.
Excuse me but you may already know all this stuff.
If i remember correctly the last time i installed XPostFactoid it had to be done from the internal CD drive ( could not use external computer or external CD drives ) and the OS X must be on CD.
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Be prepared to know what the force restart magic keys just in case the installation creates a KernalPanic.
Also be aware that the computer running OS X in what i refer to as emulation mode is sloooooow and sometimes just sllllllllllllooooooooow. Although it helps if you have MAXED the RAM.
Excuse me but you may already know all this stuff.
My 8500 is a unsupported system for OS X but by running OS X with XPostFacto it is imitating a supported system. Therefore the 8500 is imitating or emulating a for real OS X capable machine.
For me it is no different when i boot into OS X in my G4 and then run OS 9 in "Classic" mode , as i understand it, the OS 9 "Classic" is running within OS X and it is emulating OS 9 and really not running what i call the "for real OS 9" which is why so many of my midi/audio programmes die when running in "classic" . But if i boot directly into OS 9 those very same programmes work.
No doubt you are more knowledgeable about the world of computers then i am and my wording obviously upset you. Sorry about that my friend.
For me it is no different when i boot into OS X in my G4 and then run OS 9 in "Classic" mode , as i understand it, the OS 9 "Classic" is running within OS X and it is emulating OS 9 and really not running what i call the "for real OS 9" which is why so many of my midi/audio programmes die when running in "classic" . But if i boot directly into OS 9 those very same programmes work.
No doubt you are more knowledgeable about the world of computers then i am and my wording obviously upset you. Sorry about that my friend.
It's VIRTUALASION for Classic mode, not emulation.
when i used xpostfacto on my 8600 (10.2), (please, if you try this, KEEP OS9 and do not raid the drives! if your back up battery is dead, you will be unable to boot your computer into an OS, and it is a pain to reinstall when it stops booting OSX and you forgot to check the box to install os9 drivers onto the hdds, i got frustrated and put my 8600 away for later) as far as i know, it was not an emulation. it acknowledged that the computer it was running on had a 604e cpu, not a G3 or G4. i think that xpostfacto simply disables the "locks" on the osx installer and when it boots up, and that it also installs drivers/kexts to support the older systems.
Anyway, good luck w/ your kanga, and let us know how it goes, i might try to put 10.2 or 10.1 on my hooper when i get more ram.
Anyway, good luck w/ your kanga, and let us know how it goes, i might try to put 10.2 or 10.1 on my hooper when i get more ram.
Glad you made reference to keeping OS 9 stuff.
Before i XPOSTfactoid my 8500 i installed a second internal hard drive and installed OS 9. For me it was a scarry blaze of text when i ran XPOSTfacto: made a lot of errors and had to redo th e process a number of times before i was able to get the TIGER running. Had to use TIGER because i was able to scoff the first two CD's of 3 CD's in exchange for the Tiger DVD.
Hope the KANGA OS X installation goes smooth. Let us know please.
My problem is that I don't have OS9.1 install disks, so wiping the hard drive and partitioning is not a viable option. My plan was to just install OSX10.2 of some sort right on top of OS9.1. My understanding is that this is doable and I can just switch between System Folders using the startup control panel. One of my Kangas appears to have an 8.6 installation on it as well, and it looks like I can switch between it and 9.1. Haven't tried it because I'm not sure if the 8.6 install is any good, but in theory I could. The current drive has plenty of space for OSX with space left over, so once I get the system fully operational (it needs a new keyboard and PRAM battery) I'm going to try to track down some OSX CDs.The sweet spot for OS X on the Kanga is 10.2.6, as the video kext works at thousands - you can go to 10.2.8 but save the kext, and I believe the same for 10.3.
Also keep in mind OS X needs to be installed on the first partition of the HD, which has to be below 8GB in size. To keep it clean, partition the HD in two - the first 8GB for OS X, and the latter for OS 9.1 - files etc won't get messed up then.
Hoping to do the same with my Kanga soon
JB
Is it unusably slow? My Kanga is maxed out at 160MB RAM and like all Kangas is a 250MHz G3. Also, what is being emulated by XPostFacto? I don't have a good understanding of how it actually works to allow unsupported systems like the Kanga to run OSX, so I'm unclear on whether hardware on a newer machine is being emulated with software by XPostFacto. In my experience software emulation of hardware tends to be very slow.
I can't say it will work for you with a laptop, but when I installed the new 80 GB hard drive in my Power Mac G3 (rev. B) , all I did was format and partition the NEW drive then I copied over my entire OS 9.2.2 System Folder to it and it was bootable. I have had no issues with at so far. I also have made system 7 floppy boot disks the same way, except using just the minimum required files (Finder, System, Enabler etc).My problem is that I don't have OS9.1 install disks, so wiping the hard drive and partitioning is not a viable option. My plan was to just install OSX10.2 of some sort right on top of OS9.1. My understanding is that this is doable and I can just switch between System Folders using the startup control panel. One of my Kangas appears to have an 8.6 installation on it as well, and it looks like I can switch between it and 9.1. Haven't tried it because I'm not sure if the 8.6 install is any good, but in theory I could. The current drive has plenty of space for OSX with space left over, so once I get the system fully operational (it needs a new keyboard and PRAM battery) I'm going to try to track down some OSX CDs.The sweet spot for OS X on the Kanga is 10.2.6, as the video kext works at thousands - you can go to 10.2.8 but save the kext, and I believe the same for 10.3.
Also keep in mind OS X needs to be installed on the first partition of the HD, which has to be below 8GB in size. To keep it clean, partition the HD in two - the first 8GB for OS X, and the latter for OS 9.1 - files etc won't get messed up then.
Hoping to do the same with my Kanga soon
JB
