What Mac model is equal to a PIII 700mhz

[Maconthemove]

Started volunteering at a computer recycle place. The minumum speed that a computer can have is PIII 733mhz or it is recycled. What Power Mac, Imac/Emac, ibook,or Powerbook is equal to that speed.

All slower computers will be recycled(torn apart). I can remove cpu upgrades, special cards, and memory.

 

[MacMan]

I would probably say the first generation G3s, the 233MHz machines. Some of the earlier models which use 604s are also similar performance wise: PowerMacs 7300, 7600, 8500, 8600, 9500 and 9600.

This is based on my experiences of these machines and 700MHz-ish PIII machines.

 

[Bolle]

Mac 128k!

 

[Unknown_K]

I would say probably a G4-400 or a G3-500 (unless you just mean the beat to death Photoshop tests using specific filters).

G3/G4 is more efficient then a P3 clock per clock, but its not 2x the speed either.

So basically I would think anything in a G4 tower could be reused (and a fast G3/G4 laptop), anything B&W or older should be recycled (asuming you mean for daily use and not for collecting purposes).

 

[Maconthemove]

That means most Macs that come in will be recycled. Too bad.

 

[The Macster]

If the distinction between reused and recycled machines is whether they are useable on a day-to-day basis, I'd probably agree with whoever said that anything G3 and up is worth re-using - most people don't want to use the Classic OS these days so there would be little demand for older Macs, but OS X is more than useable on any G3 as long as you have sufficient Ram.

 

[coius]

I second the one about the 500Mhz G3/400Mhz G4. The thing is, what do you compare when it comes to extra instruction sets? if it was doing media, i would say the G4. if it was just doing everyday stuff, i would say the G3. (G4 only trumps the G3 at it's speed when under OS X or doing media) Apple touted the G4 too much, but when the G4 came out, the G3 trumped it at slightly higher speeds in normal everyday use, because the G4's altivec didn't get used until OS X came out. Then OS X used Altivec for just about everything.

G3 was a nice CPU, but once OS X came into full swing, and media was just about everywhere, that's where the G4 showed it's true colors.

a 700Mhz P III can only trump a G3 if it's media related. Otherwise, what makes the difference is the Operating System. The P III has a better chance of trumping even a G4 if a system was compiled to take specific advantages of the CPU Features. Otherwise, as far as Windows? a low end G4 trumps a P III 1.2Ghz because of how slow windows crawls compared to OS X which hands off the window rendering to the graphics card. It doesn't bog down the CPU when you move the windows.

Vista is a bit better... I don't see streaking when moving windows around under vista, but it does on XP Pro. this is with the same video card (Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB AGP 8x) My B&W G4 400Mhz w/ 32MB PCI Radeon 7000 does a better job at rendering the windows than M$ Windows XP does.

 

[Bunsen]

All slower computers will be recycled(torn apart). I can remove cpu upgrades, special cards, and memory.

And you're the "Mac expert" in the shop?

...

In that case, anything slower than a quad Mac Pro tower is useless }

Well, to be serious, I second the above - G3/500 G4/400 with >192MB of RAM (>300MB is better) and OS X. You can probably make up the RAM from trashed machines. This is from personal experience comparing my Beige G4 with my dad's PIII-800.

But also to be serious - most of the CPUs you'll be seeing could be called "upgrades", couldn't they? They're almost all socketed. Just pull and keep every single one Better than they all go to the compactor. Same goes for PCI and AGP cards (as they "won't work in a PC" } ), Comm Slot cards, AV cards, etc.

You could have quite a sweet little side business in Mac CPUs and accessories.

 

[Bunsen]

What are the rules and regs about "recycling", anyway? Does all the "waste" have to go to a licensed facility? Is there any chance you could set yourself up as the Mac recycler, even if you're just the middleman and all the true waste gets returned to the proper place after you've had first go at it?

 

[madmax_2069]

my G3 466mhz upgraded Beige G3 does quite well, only i hate flash on Mac cause its 15x slower than the PC's flash.

other than that i think the minimum G3 should be atleast a 400 or 450 only if they are a B&W. the iMac should be scrapped or atleast parted out. like the case and mobo or what have you that could sell from them. there is allot of people trying to find replacement parts for there G3 iMacs

a G4 should be a 350. making it the Yikes G4 system.

i dont think a G4 system should be scrapped at all. if something is bad in it just part it out and scrap the bad part to make a working one if it comes down to it.

i wish i had one of these places around springfield ohio. i would die if i could find a DA G4. cause that is the system i am looking for. and parts for a Yikes G4

 

[Maconthemove]

Bunsen

The operator of the recycle said the same thing. He has shifted all Macs to me instead of having them go down the main assembly line. There were

six Macs left. From that small pile, a Daystar Fastcache IIci card, Audiomedia II nubus card, Newer Tech DT370D cpu upgrade card (8100/80 av)attached to a Apple 820-0510-A Svideocard(PDS) with the in/out cables intact.

The problem is the Policy is that we remove the hard drives first. Cannot look at them or take data off them. So no drivers can be saved.

I will post any items of interest in the Trading section starting next week.

 

[Unknown_K]

Do the HDs get zeroed for resale or are they crushed?

 

[Maconthemove]

IDE and I think SCSI get pulled and set aside. When they get enough

the have a computer setup to wipe them clean. They use D-BAN or Scrub.

It goes over the drive 6 times to make sure it is clean, then they put a linux distro on the drive. The sore point is Powerbooks with scsi drives. They take a hammer to them.

This place throws nothing in the garbage. It is all eviromentally friendly

disposed of. No Chinese sweat shop opertions. There were companies sending containers full of monitors,cpus etc to China. The poor guys over there where trying to get the precious metals from these thing and were getting sick.

 

[Maconthemove]

Bunsen

To say that I am the Mac "expert" is strecthing it. It is more like

I show greater interest in Macs. Never owned a Mac till Late Sept 06,now have over 120.

 

[Unknown_K]

So the HDs are then sold (after being wiped) individualy or in systems?

 

[Maconthemove]

It can be one of three things. Sold with system, sold individually, or the go

into a build your own computer program.

It is run like Free Geek in Oreagon. freegeek.org

 

[madmax_2069]

man, i wish i could go to one of these places. i just wish there was a local one here

i would be geting a few things from them.

 

[MacMan]

Looks like you have a god source of parts. Keep a look out for upgrade and expansion cards as some of them are quite scarce these days.

Sadly alot of places do this with the hard drives. I remember trying to scrounge some laptop HD's at my work last year but they wouldn't let any go as they are strictly monitored and destroyed due to company data being on them.

 

[Bunsen]

The sore point is Powerbooks with scsi drives. They take a hammer to them.

8-o Nooooooooo!!!

EDIT/

It's possible to erase hard drives non-destructively with a magnetic bulk tape eraser, or so I hear.

It would be good if you could save any Pbook SCSI drives that come your way. ** Perhaps you could set up an old Mac for erasing. A Duo 2300 motherboard would be ideal, as it has both laptop-sized IDE and SCSI connectors onboard. A small IDE drive for boot and utilities (and stashing drivers [] ]'> ) and the SCSI port for erasing. Barring that, any SCSI based Powerbook booting from an external SCSI drive or a CD.

EDIT/ ** especially the ones larger than 700MB that often have the mini SCSI to IDE converter board mounted underneath. These boards can apparently take up to a 4GB IDE drive