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what are blind writes? (Anubis 3.0.1)

mraroid

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Hi folks....

I am trying to format a 4GB CF card to use in my color classic.  I am using this hardware:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CF-AztecMonster-CF-3-5inc-SCSI-Converter-Card-New-for-Vintage-Computer-/301685718978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item463ddebfc2

I was unable to format the CF card using apple tools.  So I wrote the fellow who sells this device. He recommended software called Anubis Plus V 3.0.1.

When I try to format the CF card with the above software, it makes two partitions that are just a whisker over 2GBs each.  I use the auto initialise button.  It formats the CF card into what looks to be two ATA drives.  After many attempts, I am not sure I am formatting the CF card correctly.  While the drives come out as HFS, OS 7.5.3 can not see them.  When I run disk tools for 7.5.3, the disk First Aid sees the drives and reports them to be perfect.  But if I try to run the format utility on the tools disk, it will not see the drives.  And the OS will not load.

I think I am not formatting the drives correctly.  One thing I have not tried is turning off "Blind Writes" (what ever that is).

Is anyone here using this software to format a CF card?  If not, can you recommend some software to me?

Thanks

jack

 
Blind Writes is when the computer writes data to the drive without a read verification. This is good if you want something done fast but it can come with mistakes if the media is iffy. Personally I do not use Blind Writes. It can cause problems.

Furthering, with a heated discussion about OS9 and SSD (including CFs as an SSD), your partitions should be under, not over 2GB.  This is because you're using System 7, and a '030 CPU. This creates limitations as to how big partitions should be.

So just try again, but with smaller partitions. I say between 1.75GB and 1.9GB. If you do 1.5GB partitions, you would get two 1.5GB partitions and one 1GB partitions for 3 little hard drives.

 
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uniserver....

Thanks for the link.  Because I only have my CC, I was unable to down load lido7 into a Macintosh computer. So I down loaded it to my PC, and burned a CD, then put the CD in my CC CD drive as I booted to a boot floppy.  But the Mac would not see the CD. I am running out of money fast, but if I had another Mac, I could have probably done this.  I don't know of a way to get lido7 onto a floppy or a CD and move it to my CC.  I will keep working on this.  Thanks for the software.

Elfen....

Thanks again for your help.  I have turned off blind writes all the time I have been trying to format my CF card.  Good info. Thanks for that.

I have made my partitions 1.5GBs.  Still not joy.  What is odd, is that I can use "Disk First Aid" and it sees the drives, and it can repair them.  Disk First Aid sees nothing to repair.  It always says the drives appear to be OK.

Skipping Anubis Plus V 3.0.1 for a little bit, I tried some of what I believe are apple branded formatting utilities which I just bought.

They are:

1) HD SC Set up (it can not see any SCSI Iinternal drives, but it sees my SCSI external CD drive)

1) Internal HD Format V 1.3 (same as above)

3) Drive Set Up  1.5.  This software will see and split up my CF card.  I break down the CF card into 1.5GB partition.  After I do this the drives appear on my desktop.  Disk First Aid can see them, and when I run verify or repair, Disk First Aid says the drives are fine.

I also have Drive Set up  1.7.3 but I have not tried that yet.

When I format my CF card with Drive Set up 1.5, and then reboot using my boot CD, I can see the drives on my desktop.  When I stick in System 7.5.3 68K Disk Tools floppy (1 of 2), I can run Disk First Aid (7.2.2.DT)  and it will see the drives and test them as OK.  When I run Apple Hard Drive Set up (7.3.5) on the 7.5.3 Tools floppy, it can not see any internal SCSI devices in my computer.  I tried going ahead with the install of a stack of floppies for 7.5.3, but it will always fail before it gets to about the 1/2 way point.

I still think I am doing something wrong when I format using Anubis Plus V 3.0.1.  But I do not know what it is.  Drive Set up seems to be a no brainier, but maybe it is a new formatting process that 7.5.3 can not see (??).

Another option in Anubis Plus V 3.0.1, is that it says it can format my CF and make it as a removable drive as well.  I have not tied that options.

Any suggestions?

What software do you use to format your CF cards?

Thanks again for all the great help.

jack
 

 
I format my CFs through a PowerBook (190, 5300ce or 1400c) using a CF to PCMCIA adapter and it formats fine with System 7.5.5, 7.6.1 and 8.1 (respective to the machines). Drive Set Up used on these Systems work just fine in partitioning and formatting the CFs. It also works as great on my WallStreet G3s.

I also use a Multi-Media Card Reader (SD, CF, etc.) to USB adapter on my 12inch G3/G4 iBooks & PowerBooks on OSX 1.4.11 running OS 9.2. I also have a 17inch G4 PowerBook with a single PCMCIA Slot and it reads and writes CFs with ease with the PCMCIA Adapter, though I have not formatted or installed CFs on that one yet.

I'm hoping that you do not have a hardware issue with the CC. Do you have a PowerBook 68K/PPC/G3/G4 with a PCMCIA or USB options?

What settings is the Aztec Monster on and what CF brand are you using?

 
Furthering, with a heated discussion about OS9 and SSD (including CFs as an SSD), your partitions should be under, not over 2GB.  This is because you're using System 7, and a '030 CPU. This creates limitations as to how big partitions should be.

So just try again, but with smaller partitions. I say between 1.75GB and 1.9GB. If you do 1.5GB partitions, you would get two 1.5GB partitions and one 1GB partitions for 3 little hard drives.
Wrong. He's using 7.5.3 which means a 4GB partition is just fine. This has been explained to you before.

 
Elfen....

I do not own any other Mac computers.  It sounds like my life will be much easier if I bought a Mac laptop and then used it.  Of the above laptops you listed, which is the least expensive?  I would want one with either a internal CD drive bay, or a external SCSI port so I could plug in my external CD reader/burner into it. Suggestions?

Sounds like a Multi-Media Card Reader (SD, CF, etc.) to USB adapter would be a cool item to pick up also.

I think my CC is OK.  I can roll in a SCSI hard drive and it works perfect.  So I think it is a formatting issue with the CF card.  I left all the defaults as is with the CF card device.  I will dig out it's data sheet again and re check it.  It seemed that it came optioned for the first internal SCSI chain, and termination.  But I will go over that again and see if I can spot anything.

Thanks again for the help.

Falcon...  Thanks for the heads up.  I will try this option and see if it makes any difference.

jack

 
I seen your other post about a Lombard to support the CC and put a post there, mraroid.

Somewhere I seen somebody here selling a PowerBook G4 - 15in screen for under $50. And I know CompuNerd had a G4 12in but at 875MHz. Don't know if he sold it yet or not.

CompuNerd's Link: https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/25734-fs-powerbook-g4-12/

Insaneboy's Link: https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/25764-15-g4-powerbook/

PM them and see if they sold them yet, but for this to work, you need a USB Multimedia Card Reader that includes CFs. Ask if insaneboy's Powerbook has a PCMCIA slot on the side. the 12in PBs do not have them but I remember the 15in & 17in units do.

There is more than one way to skin a cat. I prefer boiling it.

 
I seen your other post about a Lombard to support the CC and put a post there, mraroid.

Somewhere I seen somebody here selling a PowerBook G4 - 15in screen for under $50. And I know CompuNerd had a G4 12in but at 875MHz. Don't know if he sold it yet or not.

CompuNerd's Link: https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/25734-fs-powerbook-g4-12/

Insaneboy's Link: https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/25764-15-g4-powerbook/

PM them and see if they sold them yet, but for this to work, you need a USB Multimedia Card Reader that includes CFs. Ask if insaneboy's Powerbook has a PCMCIA slot on the side. the 12in PBs do not have them but I remember the 15in & 17in units do.

There is more than one way to skin a cat. I prefer boiling it.
Great news.  I just PM'ed both.  Thanks again Elfen.

jack

 
I have had some success in formatting my CF card and installing a OS.

No matter what utility I use to format it, the disk tools disk for 7.5.3 will not see the disk.  So I decided to see if I could install a newer OS.  I have a copy of 7.6 here.  I formatted the 4GB CF card for 1 partition 4GBs large.  I tried 7.5.3 and it would not work.  The HD format tool in the disk tools floppy for 7.5.3 could not see the SCSI drive.  When I ran Disk First Aid from the same floppy, it sees the 4GB SCSI drive and when I ran verify or repair it said nothing was wrong with it. This is driving me nuts.

So then tried to installed 7.6.  It was a clean install, no errors.

Everything is working fine now.  But I still have an issue.  I prefer OS 7.1 to maybe 7.5.5.  OS 7.6 is just to modern to me.  I am not a big fan of 7.6.  If it gives me better Internet access or something I can go with it, but I would rather run a older OS. 

Could it be that  when I am formatting the CF card, I am using a more modern format that can not be read by 7.5.3?  If so, how can I get around this? 

Any thoughts?

Thanks for the help everyone.

jack

 
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