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Think it might be time to look at reviving my 30...

I've had an SE/30 for years and years that has never worked since the day I got it... I kinda stuffed it away hoping to one day get a second one in a functional state and this opne was basically put away as a parts salvage for the day that eventuated and I needed bits.

Well... its been over 10 years and that working SE/30 still hasnt found me yet, so I'm thinking it might be time to work out where I put it and see about recapping it and doing whatever else it needs to spring it back to life :)

 
Will do! :) Am possibly going to see if I can dig it up today... may be a mammoth task as i think its right at the bottom of a a pile of stuff that isnt even mine! :(

 
Well Only one point of bad news I hope the battery got pulled or that motherboard ...... well there wont be much of it left that is solid anymore.

 
I cant remember if I ever pulled it apart in all honesty... theres a good chance its destroyed but I'll crack it open and have a geezer when I find it :)

 
I have some bad and some excellent news to behold... After pulling the SE/30 out of the garage I realised it was in far worse condition than I had actually given it credit for. It's been dropped hard and has massive gouges up the side of the case, a couple of chunks missing, and a terrible crack beside the fan grille. When I realised this I was almost willing to write it off there and then as being totalled, and decided to crack it open and begin stripping it of any remaining usable parts.





The first thing that caught my attention was some unknown metal clip that fell from inside the case when I split it apart. After that, I couldn't help but notice how there was something else rattling about. Upon pulling the logic board out i immediately located the source... a SIMM floating about on the logic board, and another half out of it's slot, both of which had obviously been dislodged during the impact. The rest of the internals also seemed to have escaped major damaged and no popped caps were to be seen, so I resumed pulling out the FDD/HDD carrier anyway prior to re-energising the CRT, then decided to go out on a limb and reseat the RAM in the board (which surprisingly actually appears to be in very good condition) and put the machine back together...





After pre-emptively working the damage case a little, I reassembled it minus it's drives and switched it on. My spirits were bolstered immediately when a solid and still pretty much geometrically correct and anomoly-free grey raster beamed forth in place of the pattern of doom that I recall it having years ago, and was absolutely delighted to see first a mouse pointer, then a quizzical floppy icon apear on screen. ;D



These photo's below show the major damage... the big crack next to the fan vent and the cracks near the power socket are shown after I had worked them back together with a fair bit of difficulty...











So.... the short version is that I now have a working SE/30. Nonetheless, the case is obviously still very poor... In an ideal world I would procure another non-working machine and reshell the working parts of this one into it or swap the plastic case onto this complete working chassis. However given the rarity of SE/30's in this century and the reluctance of people to part with them, it could be said that I am not in an ideal world, so therefore repair is seeming to be the most attractive, if somewhat painful option... as such I think at this stage I am going to look at first gluing the cracks, then repairing the major damage with a file and some kind of hard setting filler. I am thinking possibly the large chunks I will peerhaps fill with an epoxy type product and then possibly use a polyester automotive body filler skimmed over the top to allow me to hopefully try and replicate the texture, then get a pain matched to the case colour after i retrobright it. Obviously if I find another case then I'll simply replace the damaged one, however it is unlikely this will be the case....

Anyway, any progress is good progress! 8-)

 
Dang! I was never one of the cool kids . . .

. . . but my first grlf was one of the hottest cheerleaders on the squad anyway, a really smart young lady as well! :D

 
mcdermd used his cool tools to change my se/30 from soldered to ceramic socketed cpu.

I'm freaking impressed with it. :)

 
I gave my socketed motherboard to someone here to get them all fixed up, didn't see any difference except when you take it apart.

 
Yep!... a socketed 30 it is! 8-) Tho not quite as working it would seem as I had at first thought...

It seemed initially to be all heading the right way with the intial test without drives attached, so today I reinstalled the drives that came out of it, an early (very chunky) Quantum 80Mb and Superdrive, and whilst it displayed a mouse pointer still, a blinking floppy wouldn't appear. I ended up pulling the drives which I figured may have been damaged and causing a read error or an electronic fault of some sorts due to being dropped and eventually put in the 40Mb drive out of a Classic and a different Superdrive. Still failed to show a blinking floppy or boot up so i disconnected the HDD and this time got a blinking floppy and put in a boot disk which wouldnt boot properly due to the second FDD also being mechanically faulty, failing to properly insert or eject.

It was at this stage i decided to go back to basics and pull both drives out again to see where i was out, just to rule out failure of the computer itself, or so i had hoped... Wasn't going to be the case unfortunately, as upon switching it back on, I was met with this garbled image ...





AFter switching it off, pulling the power, leaving it for a bit and trying again later, things degenerated into this...



No longer even a blinkking floppy on the garbled screen, just a screen full of horizontal bars. :/

Looks as tho I've got my work cut out for me on ths one as it would seem to have some fairly serious electronic foibles which I would assume are somehow related to it being dropped... I know a recap of the entire board is the best option and probably the way I will inevitably go, but has anybody got any ideas where specifically to start diagnosing the multitude of issues this thing has? I am going to assume the lack of bong, lack of cursor and lack of floppy icon would point to a logic board fault somewhere?

 
Nice, now all you need is something to swap into the socket! ;)

Check the SIMMs/sockets. If it hit hard enough to knock one stick completely out and another loose, the sockets/locking arms might have been damaged. See if the SIMMS are all sitting in there tight. It's not all that likely, but I'd check that first just to rule it out.

 
Mmmm will definitely pull it apart in the morning I think and check that SIMMs and also perhaps all the socketed IC's are still seated in the board properly.... I guess it's not entirely proposterous to think that there is possibly a saggy SIMM in a daggy slot, or even that for whatever reason or another a ROM or other such removable chip has worked loose... maybe even the CPU itself?

 
That's along the lines of what I want to hear! 8-)

uni, I might end up sending this and possibly a couple of other boards over the drink for you to have a look at and recap if theyre any good... Ive done it before but it's been so long since i soldered anything and smaller caps have always turned into functional abortions! :lol:

I'll PM you about that later :)

 
Yeah, I would not even start troubleshooting until you are positive all of the caps are good. It's the solid foundation you need.

 
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