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secure gopher server ?
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No, Gopher is (intentionally) minimalistic and intended for things that are publically accessible. Maybe with a kludge that operates as a search service that outputs the listing with a password, but that can be circumvented.
What kinds of clients are you looking at? If this is Mac/Windows, you may consider alternative protocols such as HotLine. They don't really have "pages" per se, but they have user access control and some other neat functionality, messaging, chat, news posts, file transfer, etc.
This is the second time I have seen the request for a Gopher Server in these recent weeks. In remembering those ancient days, I used gopher from NYC and CCNY's tenet sites and then go to IRC and FTP all over the place! That was fun.
But in those days things were honest and reliable. And since you had to log in from somewhere, tracking you would be easy in those days. At least it was not the Wild Wild West of the BBS realm that was happening at the same time.
If the internet were still like that today, a lot of people would not be on it! I'd say 99.5% of them would not be on it!
Edit: Somewhere in my collection of software, I have several Gopher Servers for the 68K Mac. It's from the PISM Book "Providing Internet Service through the Macintosh OS." It was listed as Shareware.
But in those days things were honest and reliable. And since you had to log in from somewhere, tracking you would be easy in those days. At least it was not the Wild Wild West of the BBS realm that was happening at the same time.
If the internet were still like that today, a lot of people would not be on it! I'd say 99.5% of them would not be on it!
Edit: Somewhere in my collection of software, I have several Gopher Servers for the 68K Mac. It's from the PISM Book "Providing Internet Service through the Macintosh OS." It was listed as Shareware.
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*doing his best/worst Lou Castello*
HEY ABBOT!!! THEY DO HAVE SECURE GOPHER!!!
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That said, it's been a while since I read PISM, so I read it again. And there was a time before WWW a secure Gopher called Gopher+. Read "User Restrictions" and "Limiting Access with Users & Groups" on:
https://web.archive.org/web/20011025005029/http://pism.com/chapt07/
Thing is I believe, your Gopher Client needs to support log in. Most Web Browsers do support Gopher, so it should support Gopher+ and its log ins.
As for the software, "Gopher+" for the Mac, I may have it. I need to look. But its out there some where. Make Google your friend!
HEY ABBOT!!! THEY DO HAVE SECURE GOPHER!!!
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That said, it's been a while since I read PISM, so I read it again. And there was a time before WWW a secure Gopher called Gopher+. Read "User Restrictions" and "Limiting Access with Users & Groups" on:
https://web.archive.org/web/20011025005029/http://pism.com/chapt07/
Thing is I believe, your Gopher Client needs to support log in. Most Web Browsers do support Gopher, so it should support Gopher+ and its log ins.
As for the software, "Gopher+" for the Mac, I may have it. I need to look. But its out there some where. Make Google your friend!
Most Gopher clients do NOT support Gopher+. At that point you may just want to go for HTTP.
Well , I've set up a local server on my MacMini, with Bucktooth, from Floodgap :
http://www.floodgap.com/software/
Very easy to setup , works well. Found it's a very easy way to access to my files server from my Mac Classic, or other old systems, much better than http.
It's a nice way to access my files server from a linux box too , with lynx. Though i can ssh, it's cool to see a nice gopher page with an ascii title...
But It's local at the moment, and before setting the thing for an online use , was wondering if it could be made online, but "private". With a password access.
Will check Gopher+, thanks.
http://www.floodgap.com/software/
Very easy to setup , works well. Found it's a very easy way to access to my files server from my Mac Classic, or other old systems, much better than http.
It's a nice way to access my files server from a linux box too , with lynx. Though i can ssh, it's cool to see a nice gopher page with an ascii title...
But It's local at the moment, and before setting the thing for an online use , was wondering if it could be made online, but "private". With a password access.
Will check Gopher+, thanks.
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There's really no point to "securing" it with a password. Most people don't or can't mass-suck bandwidth over Gopher, so you should be fined.
I trust you meant fine?
This is an interesting project that I might look into doing myself.
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I think that's meant to be a joke.
Gopher+ from the PISM book needs a minimum of System 7 and should work up to System 9 as it uses Users and Groups Control Panel for its user login information. I do not know about OSX.
Interesting. Some faculty and students in LIU (Long Island University) Computer Science dept. are recreating a gopher there since it's easier to use and maintain. Who knows. Maybe in a few years The Gopher Net Rises From The Dead!
Then with VRML and the 3D Internet, we can really get lost on the net!!!
Gopher+ from the PISM book needs a minimum of System 7 and should work up to System 9 as it uses Users and Groups Control Panel for its user login information. I do not know about OSX.
Interesting. Some faculty and students in LIU (Long Island University) Computer Science dept. are recreating a gopher there since it's easier to use and maintain. Who knows. Maybe in a few years The Gopher Net Rises From The Dead!
Then with VRML and the 3D Internet, we can really get lost on the net!!!
Comcast is the most hated company in the U.S. They're rated the absolute bottom of customer support and service quality. Unfortunately, they're usually a regional monopoly, and 80% of the U.S. has no other choice but to use them, which is why they can get away with having the absolute worst customer and service experience. Ridiculous prices for equally ridiculously slow service.
If Comcast knew you were setting up a server of any type on a non-business account, they'd probably fine you on your next bill, then cancel your account the following week. It's against their Terms of Service to run any type of "server."
If Comcast knew you were setting up a server of any type on a non-business account, they'd probably fine you on your next bill, then cancel your account the following week. It's against their Terms of Service to run any type of "server."
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Unearting an old theard of mine…
GopherSurfer do gopher+ and manage secure connections.
And that on Mac OS classic !
GopherSurfer server :
http://macgui.com/downloads/?mode=search&search_keywords=gophersurfer
It manages secure connections through User&Group and Files Sharing setups of MacOS. I’m playing with it on a BasiliskII machine right now, very cool there is a sh..load of options
GopherSurfer do gopher+ and manage secure connections.
And that on Mac OS classic !
GopherSurfer server :
http://macgui.com/downloads/?mode=search&search_keywords=gophersurfer
It manages secure connections through User&Group and Files Sharing setups of MacOS. I’m playing with it on a BasiliskII machine right now, very cool there is a sh..load of options
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