kind of had it with CRT's...

[smrieck511]

The Trinitron tube on my M1212 is worn out and won't focus well. Plus even though I wear gloves and understand the precautions, I feel at risk anytime I'm working on this thing. This is not a cause I'm willing to die for.

Has anyone transplanted a nice LCD into an apple monitor or is that a dumb idea?

also I've got a Toby card so I'm assuming with the sync issues I may need a totally different graphics card. if anyone has knowledge of any LCDs that would work with the Toby card, I would love to know.

 

[finkmac]

funny, i've had it with LCDs

flimsy vinegary-smelling failure prone rubbish

for the toby... I think bmow's mac-sync-inator thing makes it easy to output to LCDs.

 

[smrieck511]

funny, i've had it with LCDs

flimsy vinegary-smelling failure prone rubbish

for the toby... I think bmow's mac-synch-inator thing makes it easy to output to LCDs.

I agree in a perfect world, I'd prefer a nice low hour Trinitron. Thanks, I'll check out the bmow shop.

 

[obsolete]

I think some folks were working with the nice fellow in Austria who makes the acrylic lenses on a retrofit for these. I can try to dig up the info later if you can't find it first.

 

[croissantking]

Has anyone transplanted a nice LCD into an apple monitor or is that a dumb idea?

Thread 'Apple Macintosh 16" Color Display + Modifications'

Aug 2, 2023

In January I picked up an Apple Macintosh 16" Color Display from a junkyard. It powered up and displayed an image but there were a lot of gremlins causing issues ranging from strange artifacts on the screen, very visible noise, unexplained behavior. I ended up tearing it apart and recapping it. That fixed all the issues except for one, sharpness. It was ok but not great. I tried all the pots inside the monitor but it only helped to a certain point. Eventually, it was clear it was the tube/age. I dealt with it but the tube kept deteriorating where the sharpness finally was unusable. RIP. So...

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[Phipli]

I just avoid (mostly) AIOs and old laptops and use 2000s 4:3 LCD monitors.

Figure screens are the most unreliable thing, so using machines that you can just swap the screen in 30 seconds is the most practical answer.

Also, CRTs take up too much space and flybacks suck.

Occasionally I accidentally forget and so something stupid like buy a 5500/275 in black because it looks cool and was local pickup... Then have regrets because the flyback is failing and I remember why I was happy with my 6500.

 

[Durosity]

Then have regrets because the flyback is failing and I remember why I was happy with my 6500.

I have a spare analogue board for one of them which I believe has a good flyback in case you're interested.

 

[Phipli]

I have a spare analogue board for one of them which I believe has a good flyback in case you're interested.

I would be - I'll drop you a message.

 

[nathall]

My own personal preference is CRTs all the way and I’ll probably be that way until I’m the last one left, but I fully recognize they are dinosaurs that are a pain in the ass to deal with. Still, for me, there’s nothing better than a nice looking image on a CRT.

For everyone else… yeah, LCDs are the way to go.

 

[jmacz]

@croissantking linked my thread from a few years ago, but yes, I transplanted a 14” Samsung LCD into a 16” Macintosh Display. Made a curved acrylic “glass” for it also. The result is in the linked thread.

I was going to do another at some point for a broken 13” M0401 trinitron I have. But it’s low on my priority list because I currently have four working Trinitrons (a M0401, a M1297, a M1212, and a 16” M1298). I prefer them over my LCDs with the exception being the one 1600x1200 and the one 1280x1024 LCDs I have for coding purely for the resolution.

There was a vendor in Austria making curved acrylic glass for compact macs (compatible with @zigzagjoe’s SE/30 LCD kit) but I had his first version which made me nauseous. It was too thick and glossy causing extreme glare and a fishbowl effect.

I preferred the custom acrylic I made which was only 1/8” thick (I curved it using heat). It’s thin so it doesn’t cause any distortion. But it was a one off and took me a while to get right.

 

[croissantking]

My own personal preference is CRTs all the way and I’ll probably be that way until I’m the last one left, but I fully recognize they are dinosaurs that are a pain in the ass to deal with. Still, for me, there’s nothing better than a nice looking image on a CRT.

Same here - running a period correct CRT is part of the retro appeal to me.

 

[Durosity]

Same here - running a period correct CRT is part of the retro appeal to me.

Same for me. If I was going to use an LCD, I may as well just run it all in an emulator

 

[gsteemso]

Same for me. If I was going to use an LCD, I may as well just run it all in an emulator

Honestly, I would agree in many cases – but CRTs get _bulky_, and I just can’t justify the space one takes up if a converter that handles a given platform’s peculiarities exists. The Apple IIgs, for example, relies on side effects like phosphor bleed to generate colours, but two different HDMI adapters now exist which can emulate the effect.