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Identify SE/30 video card
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MIRROR was a Display Vendor, so that's indubitably another proprietary DE-9 interface for a dedicated display. TattleTech/SlotInfo the DeclROM card info for the model and then check the magazine archives for Monitor Comparison articles, Reviews and Mirror Adverts for more info.
D41264C-12 is Fast Page VRAM. "MoDam" is likely a product code? given the platform designation a RevLev. "Memory Plus" was likely the distributor of the CRT/Card combo.?
Has that ASIC been sanded?
D41264C-12 is Fast Page VRAM. "MoDam" is likely a product code? given the platform designation a RevLev. "Memory Plus" was likely the distributor of the CRT/Card combo.?
Has that ASIC been sanded?
Funny, just saw a similar card (for SE) in another thread. I bet the sanded-off chip is an XC2018 CPLD, which was used in loads of 1-bit video cards, like this one that @stepleton and I reverse-engineered: https://github.com/apmcpherson/VideoMacPacHack
Do you have the ability to dump the ROM? I'd be curious about its contents.
Do you have the ability to dump the ROM? I'd be curious about its contents.
Interesting - I bet that's for the many CGA or Amiga-style monitors around at the time, if it isn't a proprietary connector for their own monitors.
It could be a mirrored display solution - a CPLD with a ROM for configuration, some RAM for a buffer and connection to the PDS slot can easily grab writes to the onboard video memory and output that video in another format.
It could also be a 1-bit 640x480 display card. Four memory chips gives it 64k 16-bit words. If the jumpers (JP1, JP2, soldered) follow Asante's scheme that's set for Slot A. If that is a slot identification it is more likely a separate display card.
It could be a mirrored display solution - a CPLD with a ROM for configuration, some RAM for a buffer and connection to the PDS slot can easily grab writes to the onboard video memory and output that video in another format.
It could also be a 1-bit 640x480 display card. Four memory chips gives it 64k 16-bit words. If the jumpers (JP1, JP2, soldered) follow Asante's scheme that's set for Slot A. If that is a slot identification it is more likely a separate display card.
Have you got a working SE/30 or IIsi for testing? Just install it in the PDS, boot and run TattleTech to find specs of the card in the NuBus/PDS report.
Not at the moment... I'm mid-restore of an SE/30... the one this card came in had terminal battery damage. :-( I *might* have one I can borrow... stay tuned...
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It depends on the resolution. If it's at least VGA resolution (which it certainly is) and not a portrait display resolution, then you should be able to hook up a standard monitor. If the output is 1-bit TTL, you can make a simple resistor ladder divider to get down to the right level and impedance.
If it's a portrait display card, it'll look quite bad on an ordinary display. There usually isn't any easy way to set the width of the picture as narrow as it would need to be.
Hey, just resurrecting this conversation. I purchased a IIsi system a few years back, and it had one of these cards in it. It did not come with the monitor however. I found a gentleman who created an adapter that provides 1024X768 on a separate display. The IIsi also came with a riser card that let you install TWO PDS cards horizontally. I would like to try this card in my SE/30, but the metal chassis prevents the card from natively plugging in to the logic board directly. Wondering if trimming the chassis, or 1-2 PDS straight-through male-female extenders would raise it enough to clear the metal chassis.
Anyway, he’s shipping it back to me and I will test it in my IIsi once it’s recapped and repaired. Will send photos of the adapter as well. Basically, it’s converting the 9 pin signal (whatever it is, TTL, ECL, etc) to VGA, so it’s very interesting nonetheless.
There is a rotary pot on the card, but I’m not sure what it’s for, maybe resolution/frequency?
Here’s a photo of the card I have:
Anyway, he’s shipping it back to me and I will test it in my IIsi once it’s recapped and repaired. Will send photos of the adapter as well. Basically, it’s converting the 9 pin signal (whatever it is, TTL, ECL, etc) to VGA, so it’s very interesting nonetheless.
There is a rotary pot on the card, but I’m not sure what it’s for, maybe resolution/frequency?
Here’s a photo of the card I have:
I’ve got a MoDAM SE in my SE with a 15 pins apple connector. I shared its pinouts somewhere in another thread.
I was able to backup its driver from the dying hdd too. I uploaded it on the garden. It can drive different monitors if we check the resources.
I was able to backup its driver from the dying hdd too. I uploaded it on the garden. It can drive different monitors if we check the resources.
I just got the same card (as @unity) from @techstep yesterday. Unfortunately I currently don't have a means to test it since my only SE/30 has @zigzagjoe 's LCD kit in (ie. the CRT tube and everything, analog board, etc are all removed and packed away somewhere) and the video card for the LCD takes up the PDS slot so I can't even plug it in to see what TattleTech says. It also did not come with the connector, just the card.
The writing on the back side says "MoDAM SE030 REV C" followed by "(C)1989 MEMORY PLUS". Top side ROM has a sticker that says 19" Dual Page SE30. This is different from @unity 's which said Mirror Technologies. I am assuming this is a black and white dual page video card for some dual page monitor.
The ROM chip is an NEC D2764D-2. I dumped the contents which was about 8K in size. Obvious strings in the file: 19" Dual Page Video Card, Memory Plus, Alpha 1.0, Mono_Virtual_Display, Display_Video_MC_Mse30.
Tried @joevt 's SlotsParse and it seg faults attempting to read it. @eharmon 's template for HexFiend also doesn't seem to be able to make sense of it.
I don't have time right now but will take a look at some point in the future just out of curiosity. ROM dump attached to this post.
The writing on the back side says "MoDAM SE030 REV C" followed by "(C)1989 MEMORY PLUS". Top side ROM has a sticker that says 19" Dual Page SE30. This is different from @unity 's which said Mirror Technologies. I am assuming this is a black and white dual page video card for some dual page monitor.
The ROM chip is an NEC D2764D-2. I dumped the contents which was about 8K in size. Obvious strings in the file: 19" Dual Page Video Card, Memory Plus, Alpha 1.0, Mono_Virtual_Display, Display_Video_MC_Mse30.
Tried @joevt 's SlotsParse and it seg faults attempting to read it. @eharmon 's template for HexFiend also doesn't seem to be able to make sense of it.
I don't have time right now but will take a look at some point in the future just out of curiosity. ROM dump attached to this post.
The file is an overdump, or the card only maps the first 2k into memory. It can be parsed if you truncate the file to the first 2048 bytes.
It supports 1024x770 at 1-bit.
Ah, didn’t even consider that it would issues parsing beyond the relevant chunk at the beginning. Thanks!
