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I want to do this...
- Thread starter MinerAl
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What HDD? 
100% flat SE bezel with trayloader and Apple II logo medallion would be very
Flattening the curvature of the CRT fillet for an LCD installation without the bubble would be even more so! }
100% flat SE bezel with trayloader and Apple II logo medallion would be very
Flattening the curvature of the CRT fillet for an LCD installation without the bubble would be even more so! }
Yer gettin' there, but what's with the closeup teaser . . .
. . . show us what the whole thing looks like ATM. Illustrate your vision coming to life. :approve:
. . . show us what the whole thing looks like ATM. Illustrate your vision coming to life. :approve:
Here's a sketch (pardon my lack of pen skills) of what I'm thinking for the stealth single-layer PCB that'll move the connections of the 605's board to the very different port-holes on the Classic II's tub.
I'd like the connectors on the tub side soldered to the board, with traces over to posts that can be used with pigtail cables to attach to the 605, except the SCSI which will use traces across the board. On the 605 side only the DA15 (video) and SCSI male connectors will be on the board, to provide physical support/positioning, and to get the video signal out of the 605 and to posts for the cable up to the MiniMonoSVGA screen.
Where the Classic II has a D?-19 external FDD port, I'd like to try to shoehorn in a DE-15 (VGA) and an RJ45 (Ethernet), if I can't manage that I'll have to use the D?-19 connector and make a dongle out of an external FDD cable with VGA and Ethernet ends.
The reason I'd like to have a VGA port on the back is: I'd like to be able to switch between the internal 605's video signal and an external source for the screen, so I could run the box as a 9" monochrome SVGA external monitor with a poor 20 year old computer trapped inside. I'd like to try to use one of the built in programmers' buttons on the side of the bucket to actuate the switch between internal and external video. This is what "magic switch area" means on the sketch. It may end up being too much trouble for the switch, but I'd still like the option of using the external video source just by moving the 6-pin connector inside the bucket.
I've been talking with Trash80toHP_Mini about how to accomplish all of this. The magic switch idea is kind of new. I've abandoned the idea of taking the 605's video out to an external monitor, since I found out I can get 800x600 on the internal screen.
I have no idea how to lay this out, but I have a pretty good notion from YouTube about etching a single sided PCB, so I might be up to trying this with a little guidance in the layout area.
I'd like the connectors on the tub side soldered to the board, with traces over to posts that can be used with pigtail cables to attach to the 605, except the SCSI which will use traces across the board. On the 605 side only the DA15 (video) and SCSI male connectors will be on the board, to provide physical support/positioning, and to get the video signal out of the 605 and to posts for the cable up to the MiniMonoSVGA screen.
Where the Classic II has a D?-19 external FDD port, I'd like to try to shoehorn in a DE-15 (VGA) and an RJ45 (Ethernet), if I can't manage that I'll have to use the D?-19 connector and make a dongle out of an external FDD cable with VGA and Ethernet ends.
The reason I'd like to have a VGA port on the back is: I'd like to be able to switch between the internal 605's video signal and an external source for the screen, so I could run the box as a 9" monochrome SVGA external monitor with a poor 20 year old computer trapped inside. I'd like to try to use one of the built in programmers' buttons on the side of the bucket to actuate the switch between internal and external video. This is what "magic switch area" means on the sketch. It may end up being too much trouble for the switch, but I'd still like the option of using the external video source just by moving the 6-pin connector inside the bucket.
I've been talking with Trash80toHP_Mini about how to accomplish all of this. The magic switch idea is kind of new. I've abandoned the idea of taking the 605's video out to an external monitor, since I found out I can get 800x600 on the internal screen.
I have no idea how to lay this out, but I have a pretty good notion from YouTube about etching a single sided PCB, so I might be up to trying this with a little guidance in the layout area.
Thought this through, too late to edit the post:
I want internal audio to work unless the headphone jack is in use, just like original, so I guess I'll have to add that ability to my PCB. The internal audio will have to come off posts on the PCB and be switched by the headphone jack on the PCB as well.
Duh.
I want internal audio to work unless the headphone jack is in use, just like original, so I guess I'll have to add that ability to my PCB. The internal audio will have to come off posts on the PCB and be switched by the headphone jack on the PCB as well.
Duh.
The cutout for internal sound is a mechanical switch built into the stereo output jack, so the connector has an additional pin contact to the adapter board along with the three you're showing for stereo.
Are you doing anything with the microphone ports on either end?
Are you using the serial ports on either end?
Are you doing anything with the microphone ports on either end?
Are you using the serial ports on either end?
Right, I'll have to update my sketch. So will I need 3 for headphones 1 for the switch lead and 2 more for internal audio, or is the switch lead one of the 2 for internal audio?
As for the ADB, microphone (the 1/8 mono clear on the left), and serial ports, I was just going to make pigtails for pass-through rather than try to source right-angle male 1/8th jacks or Mini-DIN weirdness. Basically I want to put little square female header-blocks at the end of 2-3" of audio/ADB/serial cables to pop onto the posts on the PCB. Kind-of the way speakers or fans connect to logic boards.
One of the options you and I talked about was a serial port actually being the dummy port for a PhoneNet or GeoPort bodied dongle that would house the RJ-45 Ethernet jack. That'd be an option with the current sketch; just move the Ethernet header over to one of the serial port posts. Then I wouldn't have to shoe-horn an RJ-45 onto the PCB
As for the ADB, microphone (the 1/8 mono clear on the left), and serial ports, I was just going to make pigtails for pass-through rather than try to source right-angle male 1/8th jacks or Mini-DIN weirdness. Basically I want to put little square female header-blocks at the end of 2-3" of audio/ADB/serial cables to pop onto the posts on the PCB. Kind-of the way speakers or fans connect to logic boards.
One of the options you and I talked about was a serial port actually being the dummy port for a PhoneNet or GeoPort bodied dongle that would house the RJ-45 Ethernet jack. That'd be an option with the current sketch; just move the Ethernet header over to one of the serial port posts. Then I wouldn't have to shoe-horn an RJ-45 onto the PCB
I was figuring on doing thru-holes in the PCB for soldering sacrificed cable ends, do away with the header pin middle-man entirely.
I know these are a little long (http://www.svideo.com/sv10.html) but something on those lines could cheat for the ADB ports?
Who said anything about fun? I was going for cheap and easy.
The 605 logic board will remain upgraded, but otherwise unmolested. Uniserver already recapped and speed bumped it for me, and I threw on the full 68040 and heat sink. I might throw RAM and VRAM on there, but there will be no irreversible/wacky hacking of the logic board. Ideally I should be able to swap in any LC shaped logic board (the ports are the same position and function on at least the LCII-605).
