Even the Lisa 2/Mac XL gets a Flash Card Drive!!

[Mac128]

Lisa 2/Mac XL Widget drive replacement:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330239668173

Profile drive replacement:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330239667226

 

[JDW]

It absolutely makes me sick to my stomach to see all the customized flash drive options available for Apple II and Lisa machines where there is virtually nothing for compact Macs like the SE/30. Sick!

 

[JRL]

Well, it's only because SunREM and Sigma Seven were supporting them for quite a while after their retirement.

 

[register]

It absolutely makes me sick to my stomach to see all the customized flash drive options available for Apple II and Lisa machines where there is virtually nothing for compact Macs like the SE/30. Sick!

But if you get a glimpse at the prices, you know why these options are available, at all: there is some request for such items from custumers willing to pay to manufacturers with appropriate know how. Several solutions for nonvolatile solid state memory are available for nearly any Mac, but they are as expensive as the Lisa stuff, and they are hard to identify because they are not labeled as "Mac stuff", usually.

An effective way to improve the circumstances might be to set up an appropriate Wiki article. As long as everyone figures out what works or not by test-after-purchase the market will remain extremely small. Look at the thousands of views hitting flash memory related threads in this forum. There seems to be need for an easy way to decide which device will work in a given Mac, and where to buy.. Someone skilled might set up a stub, please! I will be happy to contribute.

 

[nahuelmarisi]

It absolutely makes me sick to my stomach to see all the customized flash drive options available for Apple II and Lisa machines where there is virtually nothing for compact Macs like the SE/30. Sick!

Well to be honest JDW, they need it less! Think about it, where the hell are you going to find a working profile or widget drive?

Finding a decent SCSI drive for your SE/30 is relatively cheap and easy.

Therefore, there is less incentive to develop one.

On the other hand, I have my Lisa without a widget drive or floppy drive and I am unable to use it, due to the cost of such hardware. Which basically means it's sitting there just for display :S. It's a shame that one can't use it n a floppy-driven mode as it is possible to do with the macs.

 

[Charlieman]

Well, it's only because SunREM and Sigma Seven were supporting them for quite a while after their retirement.

Indeed, the Flash drive for the Lisa was only invented because one of the founders of Sigma Seven participates in the Lisa discussion list. When it became clear that many Lisa owners were suffering from dead internal and external disk drives, the designer came out of retirement briefly. He teamed up with the biggest Lisa supporter and designed a new board that emulates a Profile drive using Flash or IDE.

For any Mac with a SCSI interface, we don't need to worry about disk availability for a few more years. But the available pool of working HD20s will dry up very quickly. Ditto serial hard disks for the 128K and 512K.

 

[redrouteone]

I put CF in my IIsi. I just bought a SCSI-IDE adapter and a IDE-CF adapter. Though it is picky about which cards I can use. So far I can only get it to work with a 8mb Crucial card and a 1GB Lexar card.

Though I have been pondering a Mac Floppy to Ethernet adapter. I don't think it would be too hard. Just need to find the time.

 

[Patnukem]

im building an idefile http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/patrick/idefile.htm for my lisa lets hope it turns out ok

 

[skeletor]

Well, it's only because SunREM and Sigma Seven were supporting them for quite a while after their retirement.

Indeed, the Flash drive for the Lisa was only invented because one of the founders of Sigma Seven participates in the Lisa discussion list. When it became clear that many Lisa owners were suffering from dead internal and external disk drives, the designer came out of retirement briefly. He teamed up with the biggest Lisa supporter and designed a new board that emulates a Profile drive using Flash or IDE.

For any Mac with a SCSI interface, we don't need to worry about disk availability for a few more years. But the available pool of working HD20s will dry up very quickly. Ditto serial hard disks for the 128K and 512K.

how true...glad to see that older machines like the lisa, are being thought of, and stuff being made for...eventually, our compact macs will be in the same boat as the Lisa etc...question being, when that day arrives, how many of 'em will still be around,let alone working..so many of em,

have been going D.O.A. , due to MB & ANALOG board issues...

 

[benjgvps]

I put CF in my IIsi. I just bought a SCSI-IDE adapter and a IDE-CF adapter. Though it is picky about which cards I can use. So far I can only get it to work with a 8mb Crucial card and a 1GB Lexar card.
Though I have been pondering a Mac Floppy to Ethernet adapter. I don't think it would be too hard. Just need to find the time.

If you have the ability to find that time, you have to much time... That "Mac Floppy to Ethernet adapter" idea you have sounds slightly like my idea of a sort of floppy to floppy drive transfer (Like those tape player adapters for MP3 players). faster than serial!