Email Clients for 8.1/PPC?

[l008com]

I've been toying with the idea of setting up my email on my old machine. I consider the 8.1 volume to be this Mac's main and primary OS. I'm wondering if there are any email clients that might be able to connect to a modern mail server? I tried eudora 5.1 but when I tried to set up my account, it crashed. Plus it looks like eudora can only be configured for one single account. Not the many many accounts I have. I suspect another problem might be my 64 character email passwords. That may break older clients too. I've searched around and most people don't have much luck in this hunt, but most of them are looking for System 7/68k mail clients. Maybe I'll be a little luckier since I'm 8.1/PPC? This is about as low priority as it gets, but it would be kind of neat to have it on there.

 

[IPalindromeI]

Likely, none of them will support modern TLS. Outloook Express 5, Communicator 4.x, and Mulberry will be better bets, but even if they do TLS 1.0, they won't do newer versions, or newer certs and ciphers, or SNI.

 

[Cory5412]

To talk to the issue of certificates: I run an Exchange 2010 server at home. I have a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone. These things are extremely contemporary and there are a lot of features in Exchange that only winmo6.5 can take advantage of.

I can not sync them because the phone is exceedingly angry at me about the certs. That's a phone that's only, at this point, five or six years old.

Your best bet will probably be to run a mail server at home that allows insecure imap/pop and smtp connections from your LAN and requires normally secured imap/pop/smtp connections from off-LAN, so you can use OE/Communicator/etc.

There are intermediary tools that may help, but I don't specifically know anything about those.

Another option is to take it even further back, install alpine on a Linux/BSD/OSX shellbox and use that to fetch your mail, then "dial" into that machine with macssh, and enjoy pre-1994 "PPP literally doesn't exist yet" Internet fun.

 

[techknight]

If you use roadrunner as an ISP, they still run insecure mail servers. 

 

[CC_333]

Is it possible to get a roadrunner email without actually being a paid customer of their ISP service?

I suspect not, but I had to ask....

c

 

[techknight]

No, but I havent been a roadrunner customer for a very very long time. I still have my email from when my parents paid for it back in 2003 or so. They never killed it off. 

Back in the olden days before port blocking, I used to run my own mail server in house for fun, Until I realized that it was open relay and had no idea. Whoops. I got a call from the ISP saying there is a mail server on my roadrunner account and it was a violation of TOS, etc.. I played dumb and said it might be a PC that I hooked up that was preconfigured or had a virus, They said. Oh, ok... 

Anyways, I remember trying to do a simple DOS DIR from the badmail folder, it would hang the machine it had so many files in it... Ah the glory days LOL. This was when Windows 2000 Server pre service packs was still current. 

 

[Cory5412]

I run a mail server in my home. Qwest/CenturyLink has been pretty cool about it, but I don't believe it has been used for anything nefarious up to this point. I now have a business class service, which explicitly allows for this.

With certain mail servers (possibly even Exchange) you can set different connections for different networks, I haven't bothered to do that.

 

[l008com]

Usually you can get away with running a mail server at home without problem. They usually only block outgoing port 25 connections, not incoming. So you can receive mail, and then relay all of your outgoing mail through your ISP's mail server. It will generally work, but because you don't have reverse DNS, its a little more likely to be considered spam. And there are also realtime blacklists specifically for "dynamic IP addresses", so some mail servers will likely use those and block you. But I am doing none of this, too much work and I have 100 other devices I can check my mail on. I just thought it would be cool if I could also check it on OS 8.

 

[Cory5412]

It depends highly on your ISP. Qwest/CL blocks incoming 25, but not outgoing, so I was able to get messages going out delivered to spam, but not get incoming. Some allow both, some block all but their own outgoing servers.

I'm on business class and I buy statics from my ISP, so I'm pretty much good to go.

 

[IPalindromeI]

Keep in mind you can also use SSL tunneling (stunnel) to proxy it to something unencrypted. Also note that some early clients won't support authentication - IIRC, I think you can also proxy that?