Desperately seeking Mac OS Anthology 2000 & 2001 Edition

[Alex]

Dear Members

I am an assistant and contributor to the Macintosh Repository and we've have been hunting high and low for the Mac OS Anthology 2000 & 2001 Edition set. Unfortunately we have not been able to locate the complete set as wherever we find it, disks 2, 3, 4 and 6 are corrupt, the images mount but data is clearly missing.

We would be grateful if a member who has the original disc set could image the missing discs and send them to us via SFTP.

If you can actually contribute the entire set to be sure a pristine set goes online, we would be most obliged.

Our goal is to preserve as much old Mac Software as we can with descriptions. Eventually we plan to trickle material to the archive.org for further preservation but MR is a community of enthusiasts and we encourage you to visit become a member and contribute if you can.

Kind regards

—Alex

 

[galgot]

This is the one thing you didn't find on the Macintosh Garden ?  -_-

 

[Alex]

Good question, I went there are they don't have the 2000/2001 Edition. Every single download either turns out one of two ways; it is not the 2000-2001 edition but instead is the 1999 edition or discs 2,3,4 and 6 of the 2000/2001 edition are corrupt.

There is mention of max1zzz and I have his copies but his suffer the same fate, discs 2,3,4, and 6 are corrupt.

Do you have any other leads perhaps? 

 

[EvilCapitalist]

He was being facetious because the owner of the Mac Repository "borrowed" (aka stole/site-ripped) everything they started with from the Garden, right down to the screenshots.  It tends to rub people the wrong way when a site tries to pass off content they stole from elsewhere as their own and then has the stones to ask for donations to keep the site going.

 

[techknight]

And they force you to register to the website over 100MB downloads. Complete garbage. When I decide to get involved and download "Piracy" or abandonware or whatever you want to call it, I call it piracy, id rather stay as anonymous as I can be. 

 

[Alex]

I am sorry to bring this up again. I continue to search for these discs and at times I come across a torrent but after a hefty download it turns out to be the 1999 edition disguised as 2000.

If anyone has these discs please contact me here in a reply or a PM. I would be most obliged if you got back to me.

Kindest regards

—Alex

 

[Bolle]

So are the first discs of the 2000 edition different from the first discs of the '99 edition?

I thought 2000 just added another tow or three discs and the first ones did stay the way they are.

 

[CC_333]

Be careful when mentioning torrents. The admins (rightfully) take a dim view on piracy because they don't want legal trouble, and there are rules in place to keep it at bay. </sudo-mod-mode>

That being said, if you ever find it, put it on Macintosh Garden ASAP so everyone else can have a copy!

c

 

[Alex]

Be careful when mentioning torrents. The admins (rightfully) take a dim view on piracy because they don't want legal trouble, and there are rules in place to keep it at bay. </sudo-mod-mode>

That being said, if you ever find it, put it on Macintosh Garden ASAP so everyone else can have a copy!

c

I respect your dire warning and appreciate the reminder. With all due respect to the admins, this is their space and I admire how much work and love they put into this space that so many enjoy and use daily, it's my go to forum for all my vintage Mac questions and when I can I participate with an answer or two. That being said, on the topic of torrents I have used them with frequency and more often than not these were none other than content hosted at the Internet Archive. Perhaps a year ago I moved away from archive.org issued torrents to use of wget for bulk downloads.

In summary mention of the BT protocol should not characterise users as pirates nor be an endorsement of the same.

I personally support software developers who distribute for profit packages and own what I need and use.

To be honest and I think most would agree, the anthology is VERY old software and the only people who might be remotely interested, I for one, are people who are curious and want to see what the fuss was all about. I think it is fair to say that the contents of those discs are but curiosities today but I believe it should be preserved and when possible disseminated freely. The profit that this software once earned Apple has long expired to zero. These are now, in my view, digital artefacts that must be preserved for future generations and presently enjoyed by hobbyists.

And of course, if I do eventually and hopefully find this little piece of Macintosh history I will post its whereabouts here. By the way, archive.org has some brilliant hard to find software for Macintosh by and not by Apple, all available via BT or wget.

Man I love these discussions, they're important!

Thanks for the comments CC_333.

Kind regards

—Alex

 

[max1zzz]

I know the images on my server are compressed badly (Large stuffit archives just don't seem to unpack correctly). I can however obtain uncompressed images from what I think was my original source of the images. Do you have any idea what data is missing so I can check these images are good before replacing the ones on my server?

 

[Alex]

He was being facetious because the owner of the Mac Repository "borrowed" (aka stole/site-ripped) everything they started with from the Garden, right down to the screenshots.  It tends to rub people the wrong way when a site tries to pass off content they stole from elsewhere as their own and then has the stones to ask for donations to keep the site going.

I sort of missed your comment back when you posted. I will only comment on the donations component. I have no issue with sites that require massive bandwidth and storage requirements to continue hosting. It's not a trivial expense that a private individual can sustain on his/her own unless there are deep pockets involved. So in this respect, I can justify and understand the admin having to augment the financial burden through a voluntary and non-compulsory donation.

Disclaimer, even though the comments I made above are my own and not dictated to me, I personally believe in the Macintosh Repository (MR) project and I am a contributor but I can honestly tell you that I am leaving an unbiased viewpoint on the matter. I am not aware however of the financials of MR but I understand that it is not cheap to host and run. Personally I am grateful that people find it in their heart, a place to make a financial contribution or otherwise. I have always felt that grass roots endeavours are important and MR, to me, fits that ethos. I have made contributions to WBAI, TheIntercept and give a monthly donation to the archive.org and democracynow.org. Being underemployed I can not offer other favourite venues of mine more $ or I would.

 

[Alex]

I know the images on my server are compressed badly (Large stuffit archives just don't seem to unpack correctly). I can however obtain uncompressed images from what I think was my original source of the images. Do you have any idea what data is missing so I can check these images are good before replacing the ones on my server?

Hi Max! How nice to see you here

If you can work with the source then that would be great. From what I can tell, discs 2,3,4 and 6 of the 2000/2001 edition are corrupt. Can you correct them from the original sources?

 

[max1zzz]

I'll have a look, It's entirely possible that the place I think was my original source actually got them from me but i'll download them and compare them to the ones on my server

 

[Alex]

I'll have a look, It's entirely possible that the place I think was my original source actually got them from me but i'll download them and compare them to the ones on my server

Max, I most sincerely appreciate the effort. Thank you!

 

[olePigeon]

Several of our PTA members are Apple employees.  I actually asked if any of them still had a copy somewhere, and none of them knew what I was talking about.

 

[Alex]

Several of our PTA members are Apple employees.  I actually asked if any of them still had a copy somewhere, and none of them knew what I was talking about.

Oh goodness, they probably haven't been there long enough to remember. I am guessing. Granted Apple distributed a lot of discs, including dev disks. Thanks olePigeon.

 

[Alex]

I'll have a look, It's entirely possible that the place I think was my original source actually got them from me but i'll download them and compare them to the ones on my server

Max

Correction, It's disc 2,3,4 from the 2000 edition and disc 6 from the 2001 edition that are corrupted.

 

[uyjulian]

@max1zzzI have fixed decompression of broken >4GB files. It was an overflow problem. You can easily hack your way around that by bit shifting left 1 32 times and then add that to the (broken) size in the source code of The Unarchiver.

 

[max1zzz]

@uyjulian  It's good to know that can be fixed! I have no idea how to implement the fix though...

@Alex I have compared disc 6 with the one on my server (extracted with a unpatched version of The Unarchiver, which gives a extraction error even thought the file is smaller than 4GB) and the MD5's are differen't. The image from my server is also significantly smaller (2.22GB VS 2.7GB (Counted in OSX)). MD5ing a random selection of files on the disk reveals every readable file I tired came back with the same MD5 BUT Every file I tried on the image from my original source MD5ed fine whereas a bunch of the on the image from my server just threw a error.

I need to convert some of the images on the disk so I can see if they mount on my macbook, but it's looking good so far

EDIT: After converting one of the images that is damaged in the copy on my server it mounted fine. I will compress the new image of disc 6 in using a morden archive format and upload it to my server.