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Daystar Genesis MP startup hang troubleshooting

Tonight I started working on the Genesis that I got as spares for the first one I bought.

After putting a fresh PRAM battery in I got it to start and output video to the display.

The hang up happens at the low res white/grey background with the mouse cursor. This is as far as the machine gets. It is not fully locked up at least because I can still move the cursor with the mouse. I waited for about fifteen minutes before powering down?

I have never really had to troubleshoot these beige macs until earlier this year when I started putting together my towers of power collection. Thanks to all who patiently help me overcome my computing speed bumps.

 
I would start out by disconnecting the hard drive since a hard hard drive can cause this issue

Next, remove all of the ram and install a minimum amount and see if it boots

Next, reseat the cup card

Next, check psu voltage

And lastly

A recap couldn't hurt...

 
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So first thing this morning I tried step 1 above.  And discovered a huge mistake I made upon setting this machine up that thankfully did not lead to Bad Things.

I unplugged a cable leading to the installed PCI ATA card, and I unplugged my mistake.  With the way that the SCSI cable was routed, I thought that the end near the bottom of the chassis was supposed to be plugged into the SCSI card and had gotten knocked loose during shipping.  If I had paid better attention instead of letting my excitement rush me, I would have tracked the cable all the way around behind things to the SCSI port at the top of the motherboard near the PSU power connection on the board. 

So, I unplugged the cables from the cards, thinking that I will see if I can get at least to the blinking question mark.  To my surprise the thing made it to the Welcome to Mac screen that you get just before you hit a progress bar while the system begins starting.  This was the point where I followed the cable. LoL.  It stayed here for fifteen minutes or so.  Thinking I was going to have more stuff to work through, I turned her off with the power button and then started her back up after waiting about fifteen minutes.

It booted fully to the desktop!  So I now have one of my Grail computers completely up and running!  I am more excited about this than I was getting my G3MT going!

So I have questions now though.  I bought this machine to be a spare parts deal for the very first Genesis that I purchases awhile back.  That machine I bought knowing that it did not boot.  It made evil noises from the PSU so I figured I would actually just rob this machine of its PSU and any RAM or cards it had.  But since I have a KNOWN GOOD Daystar... I am thinking it makes more sense to just pull the 4x 200MHz 604e processor card and put it into this machine.  The question is, were there any differences in the motherboards on these? I *thought* they were all Daystar branded 9500 motherboards but there is so little info on these machines outside of their initial benchmarks and publicity information.  I know Danamania did some work with one but went the Linux route and I know that Scutboy has one (I think this very same 132 x4 setup) but aside from these two people the only other person I know of who has used one extensively is the gentleman who runs XLR8YOURMAC.com and he is incredibly difficult to get ahold of (eg: I have never successfully done so).

So, Liberation Army... Thoughts on what I should do with this Genesis versus the first one?

 
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Congrats! I am going to image the Genesis disks I have for you tonight, but it looks like you are most of the way there if you have the Genesis control panel.

When you boot up, do you get the Daystar banner underneath the "Welcome to Macintosh" window? If so, you may already have everything I have :)

I don't know if I get the nice icon and the Genesis MP 4-604/132 line in the "About this Macintosh" box. I'll have to check.

Currently I have my machine dual-booting OS 9.2 and BeOS 5. I've got a little stash of spare parts including another Daystar motherboard, a G3 processor card, etc. if you find you need anything to get both machines up and running.

 
Good to know!  My banner is actually *above* the Welcome to Macintosh" window!

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So with the control panel, I can upgrade to at least an 8.x system and still have the functionality of the Daystar quad CPU board??  That would be awesome!

 
One of two in my possession.  The other one however will not start.  Press the power button and I get a click and then nothing.  Currently trying to resolve the same issue with a 9600/350 and I was thinking they were both bad PSUs.  However I just swapped a known good PSU out of an 8600/250 into the 9600 and the issue persists.  I have spare 9600 boards... So next on the list once I actually feel ambitious is to try one of those. 

If it ends up being the motherboard in the Genesis... Part of me is thinking about trying to put a 9600/233 Motherboard in and hack that together.  Though since I have one fully operational I will probably just toss the faster CPU card into this Genesis and hang onto the other box for spares and such.

 
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